From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Kalle Olavi Niemitalo To: Keisuke Nishida Cc: guile-emacs@sourceware.cygnus.com Subject: Re: frames and windows Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2000 02:33:00 -0000 Message-id: <87r9cugjp4.fsf@PC486.Niemitalo.LAN> References: X-SW-Source: 2000-q1/msg00072.html Keisuke Nishida writes: > What about renaming them in terms of GTK+ when we use Emacs Scheme? > I know this is very confusing and controversial, but I would choose > renaming because it will help people after ten years. We can't switch the names in Emacs Lisp, and Emacs Lisp will exist after ten years. If many users know the non-Emacs meanings of "window" and "frame" and are confused by the Emacs meanings, it might be useful to switch. But I didn't find the Emacs meanings too difficult to learn. If we switch the names, we must be very very careful about the frontier between Scheme and Lisp. All macros which import or export Lisp variables or functions should convert their names. I believe it is easier to keep the frontier between Emacs and window systems. If someone uses guile-gtk to create a GTK+ window, [s]he can't use that as an Emacs frame anyway.