* guile-gobject 0.3.0 Released
@ 2002-01-28 11:29 Ariel Rios
2002-01-29 19:01 ` Eric Gillespie
2002-02-04 14:15 ` guile-gobject 0.3.0 Released Neil W. Van Dyke
0 siblings, 2 replies; 8+ messages in thread
From: Ariel Rios @ 2002-01-28 11:29 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: gnome-announce-list, guile-gtk, guile-user; +Cc: guile-devel
Hello Happy GNOME schemers!
This is the second public release of guile-gobject the new guile
bindings base for GNOME 2.0. Please be aware that this code is
totally untested and might not even work at all =)
This package includes:
(gnome gobject):the guile implementation for GNOME 2's type system,
libgruntime (glib/gobject in GNOME CVS). It enables not only to wrap
the C glib/gobject API but it aslo gives you full acces to the
new GNOME 2 type system.
(gnome corba): CORBA support for guile. Depends heavily on ORBit2
The rest of the package contains unfinished and untested gtk bindings.
Availability:
http://linux.cem.itesm.mx/~ariel/download/guile-gobject-0.3.0.tar.gz
or through GNOME CVS via the guile-gobject module
Requirements:
-GNOME 2 Platform
-guile 1.5.4
I would like to thank Martin Baulig the original author of this set,
Michael Meeks and James Henstridge who helped me sort out some Gtk+ and
Corba problems.
Enjoy,
ariel
ariel
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* Re: guile-gobject 0.3.0 Released
2002-01-28 11:29 guile-gobject 0.3.0 Released Ariel Rios
@ 2002-01-29 19:01 ` Eric Gillespie
2002-01-29 20:39 ` Ariel Rios
2002-02-04 14:15 ` guile-gobject 0.3.0 Released Neil W. Van Dyke
1 sibling, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread
From: Eric Gillespie @ 2002-01-29 19:01 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: guile-gtk
Ariel Rios <ariel@gnu.org> writes:
> The rest of the package contains unfinished and untested gtk
> bindings.
The GTK2 bindings will also be available independently, right? Once
it's released anyway. Not everyone uses GNOME.
Thanks for the great work!
--
Eric Gillespie, Jr. <*> epg@pretzelnet.org
"When everyone has to reinvent the wheel, many people invent
square wheels."
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* Re: guile-gobject 0.3.0 Released
2002-01-29 19:01 ` Eric Gillespie
@ 2002-01-29 20:39 ` Ariel Rios
2002-02-04 15:05 ` (Was: guile-gobject 0.3.0 Released) Neil W. Van Dyke
0 siblings, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread
From: Ariel Rios @ 2002-01-29 20:39 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Eric Gillespie; +Cc: guile-gtk
On Tue, 2002-01-29 at 21:54, Eric Gillespie wrote:
> Ariel Rios <ariel@gnu.org> writes:
>
> > The rest of the package contains unfinished and untested gtk
> > bindings.
>
> The GTK2 bindings will also be available independently, right? Once
> it's released anyway. Not everyone uses GNOME.
I can continue to disitribute both guile-gtk and gnome-guile.
This will make happy schemers to many of our users ;)
ariel
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* Re: guile-gobject 0.3.0 Released
2002-01-28 11:29 guile-gobject 0.3.0 Released Ariel Rios
2002-01-29 19:01 ` Eric Gillespie
@ 2002-02-04 14:15 ` Neil W. Van Dyke
2002-02-06 5:24 ` Taming the beast [was: Re: guile-gobject 0.3.0 Released] rm
1 sibling, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread
From: Neil W. Van Dyke @ 2002-02-04 14:15 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: guile-gtk, guile-user, guile-devel
In case anyone else has trouble building guile-gobject 0.3.0, here's the
minor changes I needed. Haven't actually run it, but it compiled.
1. File "gobject/guile-gnome-gobject-primitives.c": Renamed identifiers
beginning with "g_param_get_" to begin with "g_param_spec_get_", per
http://mail.gnome.org/archives/gnome-2-0-list/2001-November/msg00121.html
2. File "corba/Makefile.in": Added "$(GUILE_CFLAGS)" to "INCLUDES".
3. File "corba/guile-gnome-corba-types.c": Temporarily added explicit cast to
get it to compile: g_message (G_STRLOC ": %d", (int)gtype);
4. Dependency on "libxml2" devel library does not seem to be checked by
configure script. Other libraries might also need checking; this one
noticed only because this particular box happened to be missing that
library.
--
Neil W. Van Dyke
http://www.neilvandyke.org/
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* (Was: guile-gobject 0.3.0 Released)
2002-01-29 20:39 ` Ariel Rios
@ 2002-02-04 15:05 ` Neil W. Van Dyke
2002-02-04 21:30 ` Ariel Rios
0 siblings, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread
From: Neil W. Van Dyke @ 2002-02-04 15:05 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Ariel Rios; +Cc: Eric Gillespie, guile-gtk, guile-devel
I'm afraid I'm confused about the future of guile-gtk.
Could Ariel (or perhaps someone else who is also working on it) please
clarify what the intentions for continuing development are?
Reasons for asking:
* I could not get the guile-gtk 0.21pre4 release to build against GTK
2 (1.3), and configuration code that appeared to be for GTK 2 was
disabled. I had the same problem with CVS version.
* When built against GTK 1.2 and Guile 1.5.4 CVS, some of the
guile-gtk widget demos have errors (possibly due to Guile changes).
It was also unclear how much new functionality has been added in
recent times.
* Ariel's true love may be the full Gnome platform in all its glory,
and it may be asking too much of him -- or anyone -- to burden him
with separately developing and maintaining *non*-Gnome GTK bindings.
No flame intended; I just need to understand where guilt-gtk is going if
I'm to be able to use Guile at all. So far it's been confusing.
Please note that guile-gobject won't work for me and some other people,
since anything Gnome-dependent presents technical (e.g., size,
complexity) and/or political issues. However, Guile bindings for GTK 2
(and perhaps Pango and Libart), are very much desired -- so long as they
are independent of Gnome.
Thanks,
Neil V.
> From: Ariel Rios <ariel@gnu.org>
> To: Eric Gillespie <epg@pretzelnet.org>
> Cc: guile-gtk@sources.redhat.com
> Subject: Re: guile-gobject 0.3.0 Released
> Date: 29 Jan 2002 22:38:43 -0500
>
> On Tue, 2002-01-29 at 21:54, Eric Gillespie wrote:
> > Ariel Rios <ariel@gnu.org> writes:
> >
> > > The rest of the package contains unfinished and untested gtk
> > > bindings.
> >
> > The GTK2 bindings will also be available independently, right? Once
> > it's released anyway. Not everyone uses GNOME.
> I can continue to disitribute both guile-gtk and gnome-guile.
> This will make happy schemers to many of our users ;)
>
> ariel
--
Neil W. Van Dyke
http://www.neilvandyke.org/
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* Re: (Was: guile-gobject 0.3.0 Released)
2002-02-04 15:05 ` (Was: guile-gobject 0.3.0 Released) Neil W. Van Dyke
@ 2002-02-04 21:30 ` Ariel Rios
0 siblings, 0 replies; 8+ messages in thread
From: Ariel Rios @ 2002-02-04 21:30 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Neil W. Van Dyke; +Cc: Eric Gillespie, guile-gtk, guile-devel
On Mon, 2002-02-04 at 18:06, Neil W. Van Dyke wrote:
> Reasons for asking:
>
> * I could not get the guile-gtk 0.21pre4 release to build against GTK
> 2 (1.3), and configuration code that appeared to be for GTK 2 was
> disabled. I had the same problem with CVS version.
the guile-gtk 0.2x series will only support Gtk+1.2.x
> * Ariel's true love may be the full Gnome platform in all its glory,
> and it may be asking too much of him -- or anyone -- to burden him
> with separately developing and maintaining *non*-Gnome GTK bindings.
Yep. I do love GNOME. I see GTK as a part of the complete GNOME
platform. However I do know that most of guile-gtk
does not want to have GNOME installed.
What I'm planning to do? In the future we will have 3 packages:
-guile-gobject: The basis for all bindings. It is a wrapper for
glib and thus for the new gobject.
-guile-gtk2: Gtk+2 bindings for guile (maybe pango can come hear...)
-gnome-guile2: The complete GNOME platform bindings for guile.
It will contatin support for bonobo, corba, gtk+2, etc.
Following this scheme, you have to choose between guile-gtk2 or
gnome-guile2. If you chose the latter it will include the guile-gtk2
package.
I think this is the way to go =)
Any suggestions. Hope this clarifies the situation =)
ariel
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* Taming the beast [was: Re: guile-gobject 0.3.0 Released]
2002-02-04 14:15 ` guile-gobject 0.3.0 Released Neil W. Van Dyke
@ 2002-02-06 5:24 ` rm
2002-02-08 3:03 ` Neil Jerram
0 siblings, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread
From: rm @ 2002-02-06 5:24 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Neil W. Van Dyke; +Cc: guile-gtk, guile-user, guile-devel
On Mon, Feb 04, 2002 at 05:16:22PM -0500, Neil W. Van Dyke wrote:
> In case anyone else has trouble building guile-gobject 0.3.0, here's the
> minor changes I needed. Haven't actually run it, but it compiled.
>
> 1. File "gobject/guile-gnome-gobject-primitives.c": Renamed identifiers
> beginning with "g_param_get_" to begin with "g_param_spec_get_", per
> http://mail.gnome.org/archives/gnome-2-0-list/2001-November/msg00121.html
>
> 2. File "corba/Makefile.in": Added "$(GUILE_CFLAGS)" to "INCLUDES".
>
> 3. File "corba/guile-gnome-corba-types.c": Temporarily added explicit cast to
> get it to compile: g_message (G_STRLOC ": %d", (int)gtype);
>
> 4. Dependency on "libxml2" devel library does not seem to be checked by
> configure script. Other libraries might also need checking; this one
> noticed only because this particular box happened to be missing that
> library.
Thanks for this info, it saved some time. Even after applying your
changes i couldn't compile guile-gobject with my CVS guile .
It seems that the code uses some deprecated/removed features. To get
a more or less error free compile i had to do the following:
- change type 'scm_bits_t' to 'scm_t_bits' (see file NEWS in guile-core).
- change 'LIST1, LIST2 ... LISTN' to 'scm_list_1 ... scm_list_n'
(again, see file NEWS in guile-core).
With these modifications i can at least compile the shared library part.
Now, during 'make' i get the following errror:
| make[2]: Entering directory `/home/ralf/projects/guile-gobject-0.3.0/gobject'
| FLAVOR=gnome guile -c \
| "(set! %load-path (cons \"..\" %load-path)) \
| (primitive-load \"./gnome-gobject.gwp\")"
| ERROR: Unbound variable: nil
| make[2]: *** [gnomegobject.h] Error 2
| make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/ralf/projects/guile-gobject-0.3.0/gobject'
| make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
| make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/ralf/projects/guile-gobject-0.3.0'
| make: *** [all-recursive-am] Error 2
|
Hmm, no idea where 'nil' is supposed to come from.
A quick grep didn't reveal anything. Ariel, any hints?
Ralf Mattes
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* Re: Taming the beast [was: Re: guile-gobject 0.3.0 Released]
2002-02-06 5:24 ` Taming the beast [was: Re: guile-gobject 0.3.0 Released] rm
@ 2002-02-08 3:03 ` Neil Jerram
0 siblings, 0 replies; 8+ messages in thread
From: Neil Jerram @ 2002-02-08 3:03 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: rm; +Cc: Neil W. Van Dyke, guile-gtk, guile-user, guile-devel
>>>>> "rm" == rm <rm@fabula.de> writes:
rm> | make[2]: Entering directory `/home/ralf/projects/guile-gobject-0.3.0/gobject'
rm> | FLAVOR=gnome guile -c \
rm> | "(set! %load-path (cons \"..\" %load-path)) \
rm> | (primitive-load \"./gnome-gobject.gwp\")"
rm> | ERROR: Unbound variable: nil
rm> | make[2]: *** [gnomegobject.h] Error 2
rm> | make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/ralf/projects/guile-gobject-0.3.0/gobject'
rm> | make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
rm> | make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/ralf/projects/guile-gobject-0.3.0'
rm> | make: *** [all-recursive-am] Error 2
rm> |
rm> Hmm, no idea where 'nil' is supposed to come from.
rm> A quick grep didn't reveal anything. Ariel, any hints?
Aha, fame at last! I removed `nil' from libguile, because its only
purpose was as part of some obsolete support for Emacs Lisp.
Can you try and find out what guile-gobject is using `nil' for? On
the one hand, the binding in libguile may have been hiding a bug in
guile-gobject; on the other hand, there may be a genuine need, in
which case we can look at putting it back.
In the meantime, a workaround should be:
(define nil 'nil)
Regards,
Neil
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