From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: "Eray 'exa' Ozkural" To: insight@sources.redhat.com Subject: Re: Packaging insight for debian Date: Mon, 09 Oct 2000 10:26:00 -0000 Message-id: <20001009203218.A9794@borg.cs.bilkent.edu.tr> X-SW-Source: 2000-q4/msg00037.html Syd Polk wrote: > > Factoring out the internal versions of tcl/tk is not a good idea. We have local > changes to these which could cause random failures, particularly when running > the test suite. > Do you think making major changes to a forked tcl/tk is a good idea? Also, this didn't seem to play very nicely with the debian way of doing things. Which of course goes something like "if you use a general-purpose lib or lang. make it available in a generally usable and uniform way" This is how we cope with perl or tcl/tk. What would debian be like if every perl application distributed its own perl with it? A suggestion thus put forth was to put the cygnus versions of those libs in some place like /usr/lib/insight, but it didn't prove to be easier than factoring out the libs which seemed to be the right-er way of doing things. Anyhow, cygnus's changes to tcl/tk are not major extensions or anything really new. Otherwise, I wouldn't be able to port it to tcl/tk 8.3 It now works, and is probably bug-compatible with the pristine cygnus (red hat) version. And if you'd tell me that you might be introducing something major in the future, you'd better introduce it into the upstream version of tcl/tk. ;) I'd be glad if you could give the package I made a try. Most of the cygnus changes are build-related, and not very relevant to tcl/tk itself. (or any of its extensions that insight uses) I didn't just strip insight: << orion:debian$ cat strip-insight #! /bin/bash cd insight-5.0 rm -rf opcodes libiberty opcodes etc texinfo tcl tk itcl itk tix << I left readline, intl, and bfd in there. Was a bit hesitant about bfd actually but then you can tell me whether this is the same thing as in binutils-2.10.0.26 :) Is it? I've managed to strip bfd too in an experimental package, so if they're the same version I can safely let it be that way. > Shipping the two versions. The next version of SN will have the same version as > Insight, and will have been tested correctly. That will be a bit difficult, but I'll try to do that. Are they separate branches or just different versions of the same thing, and any major differences between the two? Insight is a very nice debugger [interface], and I'd like to thank all developers from cygnus and red hat; we just want to have a proper debian version. :) Looking forward to your remarks, Thanks, PS: By the way, I've understood how difficult it might be to debug a debugger. Kudos for all the hard work! PS2: I'm having to mail this from a remote machine because my ISP's mail server is on the ORBS. Is the only way to talk to the mail admin at my ISP? -- Eray (exa) Ozkural Comp. Sci. Dept., Bilkent University, Ankara e-mail: erayo@cs.bilkent.edu.tr www: http://www.cs.bilkent.edu.tr/~erayo