From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 30200 invoked by alias); 14 Mar 2006 20:51:23 -0000 Received: (qmail 30190 invoked by uid 22791); 14 Mar 2006 20:51:21 -0000 X-Spam-Check-By: sourceware.org Received: from mx1.redhat.com (HELO mx1.redhat.com) (66.187.233.31) by sourceware.org (qpsmtpd/0.31) with ESMTP; Tue, 14 Mar 2006 20:51:16 +0000 Received: from int-mx1.corp.redhat.com (int-mx1.corp.redhat.com [172.16.52.254]) by mx1.redhat.com (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k2EKpDO1007613; Tue, 14 Mar 2006 15:51:13 -0500 Received: from pobox.corp.redhat.com (pobox.corp.redhat.com [172.16.52.156]) by int-mx1.corp.redhat.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id k2EKpD123711; Tue, 14 Mar 2006 15:51:13 -0500 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (sebastian-int.corp.redhat.com [172.16.52.221]) by pobox.corp.redhat.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id k2EKpB6a018902; Tue, 14 Mar 2006 15:51:12 -0500 Message-ID: <44172CBE.4070108@redhat.com> Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 20:51:00 -0000 From: Keith Seitz User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5 (X11/20060112) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: openmacnews@gmail.com CC: insight@sourceware.org Subject: Re: how to link insight against 'external' TclTk frameworks on OSX References: <441670B5.3070907@gmail.com> <44171586.3080001@redhat.com> <441722D4.9060809@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <441722D4.9060809@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IsSubscribed: yes Mailing-List: contact insight-help@sourceware.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Subscribe: List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: , Sender: insight-owner@sourceware.org X-SW-Source: 2006-q1/txt/msg00096.txt.bz2 OpenMacNews wrote: >> insight is on its last legs, as it were. > > well THAT certainly caught my attention! > > care to clarify for a noob ? is it being replaced? just dying off? are > all the developers quitting & opening scuba shops in the Dutch Antilles? I'm just being blunt. There are no insight developers. I still do some things -- mostly bug fixes and snapshots. The FSF considers Insight *not* to have been donated to them by Cygnus Solutions (acquired by Red Hat in 2000). So the copyrights on all the insight sources are held by Red Hat, who I cannot convince to spend ten minutes signing a letter indicating to the FSF that they consider the sources part of gdb (and consequently, "owned" by the FSF). So whenever I get a non-trivial patch (like the syntax highlighting one several months ago), I must have the contributor sign a Red Hat assignment (same form that is used by Cygwin). It makes life much more challenging. Nonetheless, I still try to use Insight for my work (when I'm not working on eclipse or other pure-java work). Unfortunately, gdb is really beginning to cause me problems. I've been unable to use it for weeks on libgcj hacking, and I haven't had the time to diagnose the (mostly thread-related) problems. So it's not dead in the literal sense, but it is in a perpetual state of maintenance, which (to me) is the same thing. Keith