From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 8005 invoked by alias); 16 May 2005 17:18:33 -0000 Mailing-List: contact insight-help@sources.redhat.com; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Subscribe: List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: , Sender: insight-owner@sources.redhat.com Received: (qmail 7974 invoked from network); 16 May 2005 17:18:28 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO sccrmhc14.comcast.net) (204.127.202.59) by sourceware.org with SMTP; 16 May 2005 17:18:28 -0000 Received: from [10.0.1.2] (c-24-61-199-96.hsd1.nh.comcast.net[24.61.199.96]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc14) with SMTP id <20050516171817014004f5ase>; Mon, 16 May 2005 17:18:27 +0000 User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/11.1.0.040913 Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 17:18:00 -0000 Subject: Re: Current Status of Insight From: Paul Schlie To: Christopher Faylor , Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <20050516160844.GI15318@trixie.casa.cgf.cx> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-SW-Source: 2005-q2/txt/msg00066.txt.bz2 > From: Christopher Faylor >> On Sat, May 14, 2005 at 06:13:42PM -0400, Paul Schlie wrote: >>>> But what Java does not have - is a command line it is >>>> compiled langauge Tcl/Tk - it is some what enherent. >>> >>> Well, something similar could be implemented in Java with BeanShell >>> (http://www.beanshell.org/). jEdit uses this. >> >> It seems a lot simpler to simply encourage Insight/GDB as it present stands, >> to be officially (or even semi-officially) considered as part of the GDB >> release, and maintained as interest allows along side if it; and remain >> complemented with the separately maintained TK/TCL library etc. as may be >> necessary in parallel; similar to the way it is now, but without the sigma >> of "it's dead" lying over it's head. > > The project is only "dead" because no one is actively caring for it. > Making it part of gdb does not mean that someone will magically appear > to keep it alive. You still need people to do that. > > We CAN fix this. All that we need are volunteers to keep insight > healthy. While it would be nice to have insight officially part of gdb, > it has managed to survive fairly well for a long time in its present > state. > > This is FREE SOFTWARE we're talking about. There is no reason for anything > to die when the source code is available as long as people are actively > interested in maintaining it. Thanks for the clarification, I was mistakenly under the impression that it was potentially more politically complicated than that for some reason (possibly as it seemed somewhat unsympathetically needlessly divorced from GDB's development I guess, but good to know otherwise; and will help as I can, although likely very limitedly, as I'm very unfamiliar with Tk/Tcl, which seems fairly critical.)