From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 19943 invoked by alias); 10 Mar 2003 19:07:31 -0000 Mailing-List: contact insight-help@sources.redhat.com; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Subscribe: List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: , Sender: insight-owner@sources.redhat.com Received: (qmail 19888 invoked from network); 10 Mar 2003 19:07:30 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lacrosse.corp.redhat.com) (172.16.49.200) by 172.16.49.205 with SMTP; 10 Mar 2003 19:07:30 -0000 Received: from free.redhat.lsd.ic.unicamp.br (aoliva.cipe.redhat.com [10.0.1.10]) by lacrosse.corp.redhat.com (8.11.6/8.9.3) with ESMTP id h2AJ6Fo08897; Mon, 10 Mar 2003 14:06:15 -0500 Received: from free.redhat.lsd.ic.unicamp.br (free.redhat.lsd.ic.unicamp.br [127.0.0.1]) by free.redhat.lsd.ic.unicamp.br (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h2AJ6Ex6021726; Mon, 10 Mar 2003 16:06:14 -0300 Received: (from aoliva@localhost) by free.redhat.lsd.ic.unicamp.br (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id h2AJ6D6q021722; Mon, 10 Mar 2003 16:06:13 -0300 To: Nathanael Nerode Cc: gdb-patches@sources.redhat.com, binutils@sources.redhat.com, insight@sources.redhat.com, gcc-patches@gcc.gnu.org, dj@redhat.com Subject: Re: [toplevel patch] delete references to tix References: <20030310182220.GA461@doctormoo> From: Alexandre Oliva Organization: GCC Team, Red Hat Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 19:14:00 -0000 In-Reply-To: <20030310182220.GA461@doctormoo> Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-SW-Source: 2003-q1/txt/msg00205.txt.bz2 On Mar 10, 2003, Nathanael Nerode wrote: > Insight ripped tix out of CVS. Time to get rid of it I think. Maybe it's a bit too early? Consider that someone might create a unified tree out of the latest stable releases of the tools, as described in the CrossGCC FAQ IIRC, and then, if it turns out that the insight release still uses tix, but the toplevel no longer does, we lose. I fail to see the point of removing stuff from the top-level just because it appears to be unused. The top-level tree is not just for the tools, it was originally meant as a way to enable one to build a number of projects in a single step. Now it fails badly at that, thanks to your `clean-ups' to ease the autoconfiscation. Removing a number of those projects has given us no benefit whatsoever, and actually made the top-level less useful than it was. I'm sure it wouldn't have been that hard to keep a few additional host_modules, even if they didn't appear to be used any more. I wish you were *far* more conservative when considering whether to remove something from the tree. It's not like it's hard to put stuff back in, but then we'll be going in circles. Please defer the installation of this patch until a stable release of gdb/insight is out there that no longer uses tix. Ok to install 1-2 weeks afterwards. -- Alexandre Oliva Enjoy Guarana', see http://www.ic.unicamp.br/~oliva/ Red Hat GCC Developer aoliva@{redhat.com, gcc.gnu.org} CS PhD student at IC-Unicamp oliva@{lsd.ic.unicamp.br, gnu.org} Free Software Evangelist Professional serial bug killer