From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 20276 invoked by alias); 15 Apr 2013 22:39:15 -0000 Mailing-List: contact java-patches-help@gcc.gnu.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: , Sender: java-patches-owner@gcc.gnu.org Received: (qmail 20265 invoked by uid 89); 15 Apr 2013 22:39:14 -0000 X-Spam-SWARE-Status: No, score=-6.5 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,KHOP_RCVD_UNTRUST,KHOP_THREADED,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI,RCVD_IN_HOSTKARMA_W,RP_MATCHES_RCVD,SPF_HELO_PASS,TW_GC autolearn=ham version=3.3.1 Received: from mx4-phx2.redhat.com (HELO mx4-phx2.redhat.com) (209.132.183.25) by sourceware.org (qpsmtpd/0.84/v0.84-167-ge50287c) with ESMTP; Mon, 15 Apr 2013 22:39:11 +0000 Received: from zmail13.collab.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com (zmail13.collab.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com [10.5.83.15]) by mx4-phx2.redhat.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id r3FMd9jl015519; Mon, 15 Apr 2013 18:39:09 -0400 Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2013 22:39:00 -0000 From: Jon VanAlten To: Andrew Hughes Cc: Jon VanAlten , Matthias Klose , GCJ-patches , classpath@gnu.org, Tom Tromey Message-ID: <161168785.748931.1366065549014.JavaMail.root@redhat.com> In-Reply-To: <1828422170.675972.1366061689252.JavaMail.root@redhat.com> References: <516BD4B9.8040101@ubuntu.com> <439454453.517225.1366037089130.JavaMail.root@redhat.com> <1828422170.675972.1366061689252.JavaMail.root@redhat.com> Subject: Re: [patch] update ecj to ecj-3.8.2/4.2.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-SW-Source: 2013-q2/txt/msg00017.txt.bz2 ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Andrew Hughes" > To: "Jon VanAlten" > Cc: "Matthias Klose" , "GCJ-patches" , classpath@gnu.org, "Tom Tromey" > > Sent: Monday, April 15, 2013 5:34:49 PM > Subject: Re: [patch] update ecj to ecj-3.8.2/4.2.2 > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Matthias Klose" > > > To: "GCJ-patches" > > > Cc: "Jon VanAlten" , classpath@gnu.org, "Tom > > > Tromey" > > > Sent: Monday, April 15, 2013 6:21:45 AM > > > Subject: [patch] update ecj to ecj-3.8.2/4.2.2 > > > > > > It looks like this ecj is already used > > > within the Fedora disto, however only locally patched (at least I > > > couldn't > > > find > > > any mail sent to java-patches). > > > > > > > My bad. I honestly didn't have any idea what the upstream process would > > be. > > My > > history in the free java world starts after openjdk/icedtea, so all the gcj > > fluff isn't really known well to me, and I don't really know where to look > > for > > information (pointers appreciated! :D ). So I sort of let it slip > > through > > the cracks. > > > > I did bring it up on an earlier thread[1], and it seems like by accident it > > also went to java-patches. Now I know for next time, if and when there is > > a > > next time. > > > > Don't feel bad, Jon. It's not your fault. I was around for "the gcj fluff" > (perhaps wording it better would be a good idea though) and I still have no > idea how this is updated, despite asking on this list at least once. > > And to be honest, I still don't. > Hah, ok then hopefully those that *do* know their way around can offer up a pointer to some documentation (possibly preceded by creating and publishing said documentation) :) Just to make sure, I don't mean "fluff" in a derogatory sense at all! Rather, I thank the forebearers of the free java community for doing all that great work. It's just that now, since there is very little active work on those bits (as I understand it because there is very little need for active work), I haven't had the opportunity to learn the ins and outs, and so it all seems like a big black box to me, such that I fall back on speaking of it in generic terms like "fluff" by which I mean just "stuff", not at all "inconsequential". cheers, jon