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From: Andrew Haley <aph@redhat.com>
To: Hans Boehm <Hans.Boehm@hp.com>
Cc: Java Patch List <java-patches@gcc.gnu.org>
Subject: Re: Remove data race in libgcj interpreter
Date: Mon, 08 Sep 2008 17:42:00 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <48C24C82.9030602@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.1.10.0809052200260.21567@eeepc-hansboehm>

Hans Boehm wrote:
> 
> 
> On Fri, 5 Sep 2008, Andrew Haley wrote:
> 
>> You're right, I was assuming exactly that.  OK, but that is presumably
>> simply a lack of volatility in the declaration of PC.
> As a practical matter, that would probably help at the expense
> of slowing things down a bit on some architectures.  Officially this
> doesn't help much, since I believe Posix allows undefined behavior
> for data races, even if they involve volatiles.  Even in terms of
> current implementations, I don't believe it prevents hardware reordering
> on architectures like PowerPC.
> 
> The C++ working paper provides atomic operations to address these
> issues. I think they're even somewhat implemented in the gcc trunk.  But
> I'm not sure you can avoid operations that generate fences on some
> architectures in what should be the fast path.

Indeed.  The solution of detecting the case where two threads are concurrently
executing a method seems far the best: it's obviously correct without requiring
deep analysis of memory behaviour.  I'm investigating that.

Andrew.

  reply	other threads:[~2008-09-06  9:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-08-21 13:31 Andrew Haley
2008-08-21 21:54 ` Andrew Haley
2008-08-22 12:12   ` gij: more thread-safety fixes Andrew Haley
2008-08-22 12:51 ` Remove data race in libgcj interpreter Bryce McKinlay
2008-08-24  1:46   ` Andrew Haley
2008-09-04 16:00 ` Andrew Haley
2008-09-04 16:12   ` David Daney
2008-09-04 16:25     ` Andrew Haley
2008-09-04 18:37       ` David Daney
2008-09-05  9:39   ` Boehm, Hans
2008-09-05 11:28     ` Andrew Haley
2008-09-06  9:26       ` Hans Boehm
2008-09-08 17:42         ` Andrew Haley [this message]
2008-09-22 14:25           ` Andrew Haley

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