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From: IainS <developer@sandoe-acoustics.co.uk>
To: Mike Stump <mikestump@comcast.net>
Cc: Jack Howarth <howarth@bromo.med.uc.edu>,
	       gcc-patches List <gcc-patches@gcc.gnu.org>,
	       Java Patches <java-patches@gcc.gnu.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH]: Pass -no_pie on SYSTEMSPEC for darwin11
Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2011 07:51:00 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <9E917AE9-4F43-44E0-9599-C85AC4F284D9@sandoe-acoustics.co.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20110617192406.GA27136@bromo.med.uc.edu>

Hi Mike, Jack,

On 17 Jun 2011, at 20:24, Jack Howarth wrote:

> On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 10:43:07AM -0700, Mike Stump wrote:
>> On Jun 16, 2011, at 7:21 PM, Jack Howarth wrote:
>>> The gcj compiler needs to pass -no_pie for linkage on darwin11 due  
>>> to the new -pie
>>> default of the linker. The attached patch accomplishes this by  
>>> passing -no_pie on SYSTEMSPEC
>>> for *-*-darwin[12]*. Since Darwin10 supports -no_pie in its  
>>> linker, I included it in the
>>> triplet match to simplify the syntax. Bootstrap and tested on  
>>> x86_64-apple-darwin11.
>>> Okay for gcc trunk?
>>
>> The darwin aspects of this seem right to me.  I'm less familiar  
>> with the SYSTEMSPEC bit in libjava, someone want to give a quick  
>> comment on if this is the right knob to twist?
>
>   Since SYSTEMSPEC in configure.ac is setting system specific  
> options for libgcj.spec.in, it seemed
> the most rational place to append -no_pie to (and we already had a  
> darwin entry in the case statement).
> FYI, I also tried a different approach of not appending -no_pie  
> SYSTEMSPEC on darwin but instead using...

maybe I need more coffee .. and the gcc gathering was very sociable...  
but...

... It seems to me that switching pie off in libjava spec == switching  
pie off for every java program.

(i.e. it doesn't seem equivalent to BOOT_CFLAGS, but maybe I'm still  
missing something).

>> Roughly, there are unresolved issues with position independent code  
>> with the garbage collector (or was it a problem with some unknown  
>> bit in the compiler), and this just turns off a new OS default for  
>> java to work around the issue.  I hope that's an at least half way  
>> accurate description.  We're aiming to have the default for C be - 
>> fpie, but for java, no pie.  For the C compiler, we must build the  
>> compiler without -pie in order for PCH to work.  It is reasonable  
>> to turn off pie in the java compiler as well.
>>
>> Jack, do we have a PR number for this?  If so, please include in  
>> the changelog in the usual spot.
>
> I plan on opening a PR shortly, but I was hoping to be able to  
> reproduce the same failures under linux
> using a bootstrap with the compiler defaulted to -fPIC code  
> generation and the inverse change applied
> to linux of...

The thing that is not clear is this.

libjava (and boehm-gc) with pie passes on d9 and d10 (modulo a test- 
suite related kludge); so it doesn't seem that there's a fundamental  
problem.
(c.f. PCH, which won't work with pie, by definition from its design).

AFAIR ecj1 is not involved in the libjava tests - because they don't  
actually compile from .java.

(I'm not debating that there is a problem with ecj1 - but maybe that  
needs to be solved in the explicit build instructions for that  
executable).

----

So is this 'fix' a work-around for a tool bug... or is there really a  
lurking problem in boehm-gc/libjava that is uncovered by darwin11?

we seem to be switching off pie without actually pointing at the  
reason for doing so...

Iain

  reply	other threads:[~2011-06-18  7:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 5+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <20110617022132.GA18745@bromo.med.uc.edu>
2011-06-17 17:43 ` Mike Stump
2011-06-17 19:24   ` Jack Howarth
2011-06-18  7:51     ` IainS [this message]
2011-06-17  2:23 Jack Howarth
2011-06-17  8:29 ` Andrew Haley

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