From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 21939 invoked by alias); 1 Nov 2010 04:30:47 -0000 Received: (qmail 21922 invoked by uid 22791); 1 Nov 2010 04:30:43 -0000 X-SWARE-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.6 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW X-Spam-Check-By: sourceware.org Received: from c60.cesmail.net (HELO c60.cesmail.net) (216.154.195.49) by sourceware.org (qpsmtpd/0.43rc1) with ESMTP; Mon, 01 Nov 2010 04:30:36 +0000 Received: from unknown (HELO delta2) ([192.168.1.50]) by c60.cesmail.net with ESMTP; 01 Nov 2010 00:30:34 -0400 Received: from 89.241.156.255 ([89.241.156.255]) by webmail.spamcop.net (Horde MIME library) with HTTP; Mon, 01 Nov 2010 00:30:34 -0400 Message-ID: <20101101003034.kch6ozjs2oksssko-nzlynne@webmail.spamcop.net> Date: Mon, 01 Nov 2010 04:30:00 -0000 From: Joern Rennecke To: Geert Bosch Cc: Steven Bosscher , gcc@gcc.gnu.org, java@gcc.gnu.org, Ian Lance Taylor Subject: Re: PATCH RFA: Do not build java by default References: <8FA16519-D671-4B52-B6C5-3A06187245F5@adacore.com> In-Reply-To: <8FA16519-D671-4B52-B6C5-3A06187245F5@adacore.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1.4) Mailing-List: contact java-help@gcc.gnu.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Id: List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: , Sender: java-owner@gcc.gnu.org X-SW-Source: 2010-11/txt/msg00002.txt.bz2 Quoting Geert Bosch : > > On Oct 31, 2010, at 15:33, Steven Bosscher wrote: >> The argument against disabling java as a default language always was >> that there should be at least one default language that requires >> non-call exceptions. I recall testing many patches without trouble if >> I did experimental builds with just C, C++, and Fortran, only to find >> lots of java test suite failures in a complete bootstrap+test cycle. >> So the second point is, IMVHO, not really true. > > Feel free to enable Ada. Builds and tests faster than Java, > and is known to expose many more middle end bugs, including > ones that require non-call exceptions. But to get that coverage, testers will need to have gnat installed. Will that become a requirement for middle-end patch regression testing?