From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 3308 invoked by alias); 6 May 2002 17:20:55 -0000 Mailing-List: contact java-help@gcc.gnu.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Subscribe: List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: , Sender: java-owner@gcc.gnu.org Received: (qmail 3256 invoked from network); 6 May 2002 17:20:53 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO gash2.peakpeak.com) (207.174.178.17) by sources.redhat.com with SMTP; 6 May 2002 17:20:53 -0000 Received: from creche.cygnus.com (ta0201.peakpeak.com [204.144.244.201]) by gash2.peakpeak.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA03450; Mon, 6 May 2002 11:20:50 -0600 Received: (from tromey@localhost) by creche.cygnus.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA15712; Mon, 6 May 2002 11:30:19 -0600 To: Clemens Eisserer Cc: java@gcc.gnu.org Subject: Re: Newbie Questions References: <3873941A.3050100@freemail.de> From: Tom Tromey Reply-To: tromey@redhat.com X-Attribution: Tom X-Zippy: Leona, I want to CONFESS things to you.. I want to WRAP you in a SCARLET ROBE trimmed with POLYVINYL CHLORIDE.. I want to EMPTY your ASHTRAYS... Date: Mon, 06 May 2002 10:20:00 -0000 In-Reply-To: Clemens Eisserer's message of "Wed, 05 Jan 2000 19:57:30 +0100" Message-ID: <87wuuh6v6c.fsf@creche.redhat.com> X-SW-Source: 2002-05/txt/msg00054.txt.bz2 >>>>> "Clemens" == Clemens Eisserer writes: Clemens> I'm still a very newbie at gjc so plaese dont be angry about Clemens> my stupid questions ;-).... Don't worry. But it is called "gcj". Clemens> I heard it is nearly compatible with Java-1.1.8 (without Clemens> Gui-Stuff...), but can I really make native apps with it, Clemens> like any C++ app. Is there nothing like a runtime, Clemens> everything nativly? That would be sooo cool.... No, you still need a runtime. The runtime contains the garbage collector, various low-level bits, the class library, and other things. On many platforms it even includes a bytecode interpreter. The difference is that our runtime is a shared library. Clemens> Is it possible to link static with libgjc , so that the user Clemens> dont need to install it.(Of cource there will be choice...) Yes, though static linking isn't as well tested as dynamic linking. You might have to do strange things to make some code work, for instance if your code is using reflection. Clemens> I heard that there are already some AWT-Classes. Are they Clemens> ready to use and how does they look on linux? (I heard Clemens> something like GTK)... AWT exists but is not yet ready to use. Some parts are missing. The native side has not been written. Actually, to be precise, a lot of the native code does exist in Classpath. It uses JNI (not CNI) and has not been merged into libgcj yet. The current native peers use Gtk. They are still quite buggy and incomplete. Clemens> Will all java-classes that are included in my file Clemens> (e.g. java.io.*) compiled nativly? Yes. Clemens> Is gjc a "dead" or lacy project, or is there much traffic on it? Read the mailing list archives or the web page. There is a lot of traffic. It is probably the most active free software java project by an order of magnitude. Tom