From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 15173 invoked by alias); 1 Nov 2010 04:06:55 -0000 Received: (qmail 15157 invoked by uid 22791); 1 Nov 2010 04:06:54 -0000 X-SWARE-Spam-Status: No, hits=-2.0 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00 X-Spam-Check-By: sourceware.org Received: from rock.gnat.com (HELO rock.gnat.com) (205.232.38.15) by sourceware.org (qpsmtpd/0.43rc1) with ESMTP; Mon, 01 Nov 2010 04:06:50 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by filtered-rock.gnat.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 675472BAC66; Mon, 1 Nov 2010 00:06:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from rock.gnat.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (rock.gnat.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id uGnnUAoXdwoe; Mon, 1 Nov 2010 00:06:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [172.16.1.2] (sdsl-216-220-103-157.dsl.bway.net [216.220.103.157]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by rock.gnat.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 8DB462BAC63; Mon, 1 Nov 2010 00:06:47 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: PATCH RFA: Do not build java by default Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1081) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: Geert Bosch In-Reply-To: Date: Mon, 01 Nov 2010 04:06:00 -0000 Cc: gcc@gcc.gnu.org, java@gcc.gnu.org, Ian Lance Taylor Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <8FA16519-D671-4B52-B6C5-3A06187245F5@adacore.com> References: To: Steven Bosscher Mailing-List: contact java-help@gcc.gnu.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Id: List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: , Sender: java-owner@gcc.gnu.org X-SW-Source: 2010-11/txt/msg00001.txt.bz2 On Oct 31, 2010, at 15:33, Steven Bosscher wrote: > The argument against disabling java as a default language always was > that there should be at least one default language that requires > non-call exceptions. I recall testing many patches without trouble if > I did experimental builds with just C, C++, and Fortran, only to find > lots of java test suite failures in a complete bootstrap+test cycle. > So the second point is, IMVHO, not really true. Feel free to enable Ada. Builds and tests faster than Java, and is known to expose many more middle end bugs, including ones that require non-call exceptions. -Geert