From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 7783 invoked by alias); 1 Nov 2010 18:16:57 -0000 Received: (qmail 7746 invoked by uid 22791); 1 Nov 2010 18:16:56 -0000 X-SWARE-Spam-Status: No, hits=-2.1 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,SPF_HELO_PASS,T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD X-Spam-Check-By: sourceware.org Received: from smtp-out.google.com (HELO smtp-out.google.com) (216.239.44.51) by sourceware.org (qpsmtpd/0.43rc1) with ESMTP; Mon, 01 Nov 2010 18:16:51 +0000 Received: from wpaz17.hot.corp.google.com (wpaz17.hot.corp.google.com [172.24.198.81]) by smtp-out.google.com with ESMTP id oA1IGnAD005039 for ; Mon, 1 Nov 2010 11:16:49 -0700 Received: from yws5 (yws5.prod.google.com [10.192.19.5]) by wpaz17.hot.corp.google.com with ESMTP id oA1IGmJv001085 for ; Mon, 1 Nov 2010 11:16:48 -0700 Received: by yws5 with SMTP id 5so3976911yws.38 for ; Mon, 01 Nov 2010 11:16:48 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.42.228.70 with SMTP id jd6mr8322484icb.301.1288635408450; Mon, 01 Nov 2010 11:16:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.220.186.131 with HTTP; Mon, 1 Nov 2010 11:16:48 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 01 Nov 2010 18:16:00 -0000 Message-ID: Subject: Re: PATCH RFA: Do not build java by default From: Diego Novillo To: Ian Lance Taylor , Andrew Haley Cc: gcc@gcc.gnu.org, java@gcc.gnu.org, gcc-patches@gcc.gnu.org, java-patches@gcc.gnu.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-System-Of-Record: true Mailing-List: contact java-help@gcc.gnu.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Id: List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: , Sender: java-owner@gcc.gnu.org X-SW-Source: 2010-11/txt/msg00011.txt.bz2 On Sun, Oct 31, 2010 at 15:09, Ian Lance Taylor wrote: > Comments? =C2=A0Approvals? FWIW, I agree with this patch for the same reasons stated by Ian. Other than massively increasing build times, I have not seen substantial benefits for having java enabled by default. Ada, on the other hand, has shown more usefulness in exposing bugs (particularly, middle end) and is many times faster. This is the kind of patch that requires more consensus or agreement from the java maintainers. aph, are you dead set against disabling java? Is there anything we could do to change your mind? Thanks. Diego.