From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-yw1-x1132.google.com (mail-yw1-x1132.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::1132]) by sourceware.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4F3323858C62 for ; Tue, 7 Feb 2023 13:01:12 +0000 (GMT) DMARC-Filter: OpenDMARC Filter v1.4.2 sourceware.org 4F3323858C62 Authentication-Results: sourceware.org; dmarc=pass (p=none dis=none) header.from=gmail.com Authentication-Results: sourceware.org; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=gmail.com Received: by mail-yw1-x1132.google.com with SMTP id 00721157ae682-4a263c4ddbaso195634657b3.0 for ; Tue, 07 Feb 2023 05:01:12 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20210112; h=content-transfer-encoding:cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from :in-reply-to:references:mime-version:from:to:cc:subject:date :message-id:reply-to; bh=A3TNYj387UiBA1AYI/ssB1i6qCOrZVbwC1P338Aoc6g=; b=BJfhCYZR+gJoVRLjd/MbuPFvcC/M+ya1WoAvh2wxeEUW8s/2MvZFrA6rgvM9ddb2SX LG6nLcX02XGEXtbEYyS5OewykRDOs0U0qO6BVou/TSeGFg3tOIlQ25LLdpkULN/uXhAB JUHGQA/Qd+1VSRcSQn1ePSoRjcI33H03VmdrbZfJkJEhG7G6T8Fta/YzpQqXrs97gn+z S2gy8cNkxjDPIwCCVJ9XvKYcL0fXiDtHvaXoTiDh0hH2XxUNWXZEymqjKX/IJbiTPj9O SuG56u8GhSHEPn9ZRqWTPXTr1yhidJI6VzpWFs2TfuymPzURQZ9mpqHyiqsrL85G5AQJ DPuQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=content-transfer-encoding:cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from :in-reply-to:references:mime-version:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc :subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=A3TNYj387UiBA1AYI/ssB1i6qCOrZVbwC1P338Aoc6g=; b=5xzWviLAWt/ot0wTC9gU3rNiX6QD+GN6UnyJ7ppu3QzTGyKkEL34w2CPIsHy6F48PA ofEPbihaQ9Iy1UzF+hP85qKXXy5Fh/luWcvAbW2RXSgt8iUhkRgGiR/jHmevC9W1gI9P 8O+apYRC5Lxk6kvJGgu2jm+pu++eLXDYrsJNNWQhpaD25vtG5N5+AXeMbY1PrxLEMCDn OVxCroUJtnWksJiXS/14Qwx0TFN6fVPD3MxW+QiOrZ9VCgN22f/ouEJJVjBlZK2tP98B V7bg+rp/E0xsvJK0n1aySbJsOY8YpJmevaT30h2jYKOKfK7GoU8GUblfT+XVErTBjcnJ shdw== X-Gm-Message-State: AO0yUKWon2tiRzJFRSn03pZR4a/8C18wC3TTcoEOybqjzpf2zfIh14p7 Iet00gvKIO/erpEszWu5/fVLBWFkHmwx+xya0+s= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AK7set9mawXB8cIkIC6HvingpFTzRrcnxCkeRMUSGc7BLfeKyE5+SUpNhwJO78rLexsqBMEK2gk5aYCPuhuefVclaUg= X-Received: by 2002:a81:6888:0:b0:527:ac46:4206 with SMTP id d130-20020a816888000000b00527ac464206mr284328ywc.321.1675774870121; Tue, 07 Feb 2023 05:01:10 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <0469b68a9f7626380cb9e4676abe5af20aff892a.camel@klomp.org> In-Reply-To: <0469b68a9f7626380cb9e4676abe5af20aff892a.camel@klomp.org> From: Guillermo Rodriguez Garcia Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2023 14:00:58 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Status of GNU Classpath To: Mark Wielaard Cc: "classpath@gnu.org" , Andrew Hughes , =?UTF-8?B?QW5kw6/Drw==?= , =?UTF-8?B?QW5kw6/Drw==?= , Andrew Haley , java@gcc.gnu.org, Mario Torre Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.3 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,DKIM_VALID_EF,FREEMAIL_FROM,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS,TXREP autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.6 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.6 (2021-04-09) on server2.sourceware.org List-Id: Hi Mark, El mar, 7 feb 2023 a las 11:47, Mark Wielaard () escribi=C3= =B3: > > Hi Guillermo, > > On Mon, 2023-02-06 at 13:55 +0100, Guillermo Rodriguez Garcia wrote: > > Summary: It does not seem to be possible to join the mailing list > > anymore. Additionally, emails sent to the list are not being delivered > > to subscribers, nor included in the archives (see details in the email > > below). > > Urgh. Sorry. I did see your earlier email, but then Fosdem happened and > I forgot. So at one point classpath got so much email that > lists.gnu.org couldn't handle it in time. So we arranged to handle all > emails on developer.classpath.org. But at some point that machine had > to be migrated and the mailinglist archives haven't been put back. > There are backups and I'll contact the fsf-tech team to see if they can > incorporate those archives and handle the mailinglist directly again. Thank you. There are a number of issues actually. I'll summarize here in case you want to forward this to the relevant team: 1. Archives are not up to date, e-mails sent after March 2010 do not show up in the archives (although they are visible in other, non-official archives). See: * Official archive: https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/classpath/ * Non-official archives: https://www.mail-archive.com/classpath@gnu.org/maillist.html , https://www.spinics.net/lists/gnu-classpath/ 2. It is not possible to subscribe to the mailing list anymore ("subscribe" button has no associated action, does not submit the form). See: * https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/classpath 3. (I believe) emails sent to the mailing list are not delivered to current subscribers A functioning mailing list is important as otherwise it is difficult to discuss anything in the open. Eventually I think it would be good to discuss what is the current status and future of GNU Classpath, and what can be done to help it move forward -- assuming there is enough interest. Thanks, Guillermo Rodriguez Garcia guille.rodriguez@gmail.com