From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 1053 invoked by alias); 4 Sep 2014 18:54:43 -0000 Mailing-List: contact java-help@gcc.gnu.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Id: List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: , Sender: java-owner@gcc.gnu.org Received: (qmail 1038 invoked by uid 89); 4 Sep 2014 18:54:42 -0000 Authentication-Results: sourceware.org; auth=none X-Virus-Found: No X-Spam-SWARE-Status: No, score=-0.4 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,FREEMAIL_FROM,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_PASS autolearn=ham version=3.3.2 X-HELO: mail-wi0-f181.google.com Received: from mail-wi0-f181.google.com (HELO mail-wi0-f181.google.com) (209.85.212.181) by sourceware.org (qpsmtpd/0.93/v0.84-503-g423c35a) with (AES128-SHA encrypted) ESMTPS; Thu, 04 Sep 2014 18:54:41 +0000 Received: by mail-wi0-f181.google.com with SMTP id e4so1710075wiv.2 for ; Thu, 04 Sep 2014 11:54:38 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.180.103.234 with SMTP id fz10mr8152953wib.76.1409856877636; Thu, 04 Sep 2014 11:54:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.217.12.2 with HTTP; Thu, 4 Sep 2014 11:54:37 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <54089094.5080907@gmail.com> References: <540034B0.4010701@redhat.com> <1409306247.25913.21.camel@nirvana.localdomain> <54043670.4070908@redhat.com> <1409568429.4242.1.camel@nirvana.localdomain> <54089094.5080907@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 04 Sep 2014 18:54:00 -0000 Message-ID: Subject: Re: GCJ ------ file type not supported by system From: Pekka Enberg To: Guillermo Rodriguez Cc: =?UTF-8?B?QW5kw6/Drw==?= , "classpath@gnu.org" , kgy , "java@gcc.gnu.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-SW-Source: 2014-09/txt/msg00018.txt.bz2 On Thu, Sep 4, 2014 at 7:17 PM, Guillermo Rodriguez wrote: > I think that asking to "help rather than complain" is a bit unfair. No, it's really not unfair at all. You are basically saying Andrew is doing a crappy job as a maintainer when in reality he's pretty much the only one developing GNU Classpath these days... On Thu, Sep 4, 2014 at 7:17 PM, Guillermo Rodriguez wrote: > First of all I am not "complaining", I am trying to suggest that perhaps, > if time and resources are limited, the best way to spend them would be to > look for a successor. Thanks for the suggestion. We're going to just ignore it because it makes no sense. Once you answer the hypothetical question *who* should be the successor, you will understand why. On Thu, Sep 4, 2014 at 7:17 PM, Guillermo Rodriguez wrote: > Second, I am willing to help in any way I can, and already stated that. > Yes I can submit patches (and will do) although in my opinion this does > not address the underlying problem. I think that updating the website > (to help raise awareness and attract developers) would be much more > useful than sending patches to fix bugs or issues. I also think the website needs fixing. Are sources to it available somewhere and who is able to update it if someone actually sends a patch against it? - Pekka