From: Jeff Sturm <jsturm@one-point.com>
To: Bryce McKinlay <bryce@waitaki.otago.ac.nz>
Cc: java@gcc.gnu.org, gcc@gcc.gnu.org
Subject: Re: java aliasing rules
Date: Thu, 04 Apr 2002 20:39:00 -0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.10.10204042252160.15423-100000@mars.deadcafe.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3CACF360.4070209@waitaki.otago.ac.nz>
On Fri, 5 Apr 2002, Bryce McKinlay wrote:
> Turning it off (although note that currently it isn't *on* in the first
> place ;-) should be as simple as turning off -fnon-call-exceptions. Then
> dereferences won't have flow edges and things can be reordered across
> them. Unfortunately that will also have the side-effect of not
> generating unwind info for leaf functions.
Well, sure... leaf functions have no use for unwind info if they will
never throw.
> I'd actually be fairly surprised if you were able to measure any large
> difference in performance between the two. Note that hopefully a
> dereference will only have an edge the first time it is dereferenced.
Agreed. It may be hard to measure all right, I find that "real" Java
programs usually suffer from other bottlenecks like synchronization or GC.
For that matter I don't know if there are any large general improvements
to be made in gcj. Most of the low-hanging fruit are gone.
> >(As an aside, it's hard to classify a "modern" processor... SPARC
> >and IA-64 are in-order, and likely to remain that way.)
> >
>
> Meaning that it doesn't do any branch prediction/speculative execution
> at all? Interesting.
Yes, but isn't there a little more to OoO than that? Like reordering
instructions to avoid data hazards and cache misses?
Jeff
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2002-04-05 4:07 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2002-03-27 11:43 Dan Nicolaescu
2002-03-27 13:53 ` Tom Tromey
2002-03-27 16:03 ` Dan Nicolaescu
2002-03-27 16:47 ` Tom Tromey
2002-03-27 20:00 ` Dan Nicolaescu
2002-03-27 15:54 ` Bryce McKinlay
2002-03-27 16:45 ` Tom Tromey
2002-03-28 22:02 ` Bryce McKinlay
2002-03-28 22:13 ` Richard Henderson
2002-03-28 22:15 ` Tom Tromey
2002-03-29 15:22 ` Bryce McKinlay
2002-03-29 16:26 ` Richard Henderson
2002-03-30 6:37 ` Jeff Sturm
2002-03-30 13:55 ` Richard Henderson
2002-03-30 15:04 ` Bryce McKinlay
2002-04-04 10:57 ` Jeff Sturm
2002-04-04 12:57 ` Andrew Haley
2002-04-04 14:20 ` Jeff Sturm
2002-04-04 17:04 ` Bryce McKinlay
2002-04-04 20:39 ` Jeff Sturm [this message]
2002-04-05 1:07 ` Bryce McKinlay
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