From: Per Bothner <per@bothner.com>
To: David Pettersson <dapet@mai.liu.se>
Cc: java-discuss@sourceware.cygnus.com
Subject: Re: Proposal for CNI/JNI problems
Date: Sat, 01 Apr 2000 00:00:00 -0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <m2ogarrn6o.fsf@magnus.bothner.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.OSF.4.00.10001120853160.1873-100000@bloodgood.mai.liu.se>
David Pettersson <dapet@mai.liu.se> writes:
> I think there are two problems if JNI C interface is not supported.
We are talking about the classpath *implementation*, not whether
JNI should be supported. There are two separate issues:
(1) Supporting JNI code written in C. such code can be compiled with
any C compiler, resulting an object file using the JNI ABI.
Implementing JNI is a task that needs to be supported by JVM run-time.
(Gcj will probably also use compile-/link-time tools to implement
JNI.)
(2) Writing libraries that can be invoked using either JNI or CNI.
This requires conditional compilation and/or a smart compiler.
Using pure conditional compilation would allow full portability to
any JVM and C/C++ compiler. However, it becomes very tedious and
ugly, and you give up the simplicity of CNI. An alternative is
some kind of pre-processor. The ultimate pre-processor is
G++, which is what I suggested. It allows libraries to maintain
(most of) the simplicity of CNI, while still producing code that
is binary compatible with JVMs that only understand JNI.
The discussion is about (2).
> Classpath will not be able to compile with other C compilers.
True.
> Classes that use JNI can not be used with gcc/gcj.
False.
--
--Per Bothner
per@bothner.com http://www.bothner.com/~per/
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2000-04-01 0:00 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2000-04-01 0:00 David Pettersson
2000-04-01 0:00 ` Per Bothner [this message]
2000-04-01 0:00 Paul Fisher
2000-04-01 0:00 ` Per Bothner
2000-04-01 0:00 ` Bernd Kreimeier
2000-04-01 0:00 ` Per Bothner
2000-04-01 0:00 ` Bernd Kreimeier
2000-04-01 0:00 ` Per Bothner
2000-04-01 0:00 ` Bernd Kreimeier
2000-04-01 0:00 ` Per Bothner
2000-04-01 0:00 ` Bernd Kreimeier
2000-04-01 0:00 ` Per Bothner
2000-04-01 0:00 ` Alexandre Oliva
2000-04-01 0:00 ` Bernd Kreimeier
2000-04-01 0:00 ` Jochen Hoenicke
2000-04-01 0:00 ` Per Bothner
2000-04-01 0:00 ` Stuart Ballard
2000-04-01 0:00 ` Jon Olson
2000-04-01 0:00 ` Paul Fisher
2000-04-01 0:00 ` Per Bothner
2000-04-01 0:00 ` Aaron M. Renn
2000-04-01 0:00 ` Stuart Ballard
2000-04-01 0:00 ` Chris Blizzard
2000-04-01 0:00 ` Chris Blizzard
2000-04-01 0:00 Boehm, Hans
2000-04-01 0:00 Lam.Mark
2000-04-01 0:00 ` Aaron M. Renn
2000-04-01 0:00 ` Brian Jones
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