From: David Malcolm <dmalcolm@redhat.com>
To: Dibyendu Majumdar <mobile@majumdar.org.uk>
Cc: jit@gcc.gnu.org
Subject: Re: Hit a showstopper issue
Date: Thu, 01 Jan 2015 00:00:00 -0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1434402461.14663.28.camel@surprise> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1434401660.14663.27.camel@surprise>
On Mon, 2015-06-15 at 16:54 -0400, David Malcolm wrote:
> On Mon, 2015-06-15 at 21:25 +0100, Dibyendu Majumdar wrote:
> > On 15 June 2015 at 20:32, Dibyendu Majumdar <mobile@majumdar.org.uk> wrote:
> > > I apologize for bringing in LLVM comparison again - but they have a
> > > model that seems to work just right. Basically the LLVM
> > > verifier/compiler will detect invalid blocks and conrol flow - which
> > > is more important for debugging purposes. Usually a bug will manifest
> > > itself in some corruption in the control flow - e.g. variable not
> > > accessible in all code paths and such - LLVM detects these and raises
> > > errors.
> >
> > Of course LLVM's IR is SSA form so that probably makes it easier to
> > validate the control flow. They described this as 'well formed'-ness -
> > the verifier detects if the code is well-formed and complains if 'the
> > definition of %x does not dominate all of its uses'. My understanding
> > is that the IR you are working with is not SSA-form so this type of
> > validation may not be possible...
>
> Yes: the IR exposed by the libgccjit API is not SSA-form. The optimizer
> does use SSA-form internally.
>
> I think my opinion at the time was that forcing users to create phi
> nodes was unnecessary work for them; let the API do it automatically,
> internally. I don't know if the loss of this kind of validation is a
> show-stopper; it feels to me more like a fussy API that the user has to
> do extra work to appease. But I could be wrong.
>
> > In any case a warning about unreachable bocks may be more appropriate
> > than errors.
>
> FWIW I've experimented in the past with turning on warnings about
> uninitialized vars, so maybe we need an API setting for validations,
> with each validation having a tri-state:
> * perform validation, as error
> * perform validate, as warnings to stderr
> * don't validate
>
> (thinking aloud here)
I've filed a bug about the lack of a way to turn off the unreachable
block checking, as:
https://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=66546
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Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-01-01 0:00 Dibyendu Majumdar
2015-01-01 0:00 ` Dibyendu Majumdar
2015-01-01 0:00 ` David Malcolm
2015-01-01 0:00 ` Dibyendu Majumdar
2015-01-01 0:00 ` Dibyendu Majumdar
2015-01-01 0:00 ` David Malcolm
2015-01-01 0:00 ` Dibyendu Majumdar
2015-01-01 0:00 ` David Malcolm
2015-01-01 0:00 ` Dibyendu Majumdar
2015-01-01 0:00 ` David Malcolm [this message]
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