Hello! > Well, I'm on right now. So if anyone wants to chat ... > I'll try to keep a window up for at least a few days, to see how it goes. Nice you gave it a new try: stay there for a while and let's invite kawa developers, maintainers, advanced and not so advanced users, it really is a fantastic tool to not only to learn but it gives 'incentives', imo The absolute first thing I do, before reading email, and sometimes even before to have a coffee is logging to #scheme, #guile, #guix, #clutter, [#clojure, #emacs to a lesser extend, as needed] and now added #kawa, and always read the logs, first thing in the morning [BRT, so big 'jet lag' with europe... #guile and #guix are logged [gnunet]: https://gnunet.org/bot/log/guile https://gnunet.org/bot/log/guix I never learned as much as by reading the logs and interacting with others on #guile and #guix good to mention that with experience, you also learn how to select what interest you to read/answer, not paying attention to what's not important to you ... I use emacs ERC mode, but for people not using emacs, xchat is a cool tool... and probably tons of others... but I use emacs Per, Cool you try again! It is important developers, maintainers, advanced kawa users to hang around and answer, when they can, if they are interested, ... the idea is it should not take much time, it should not be a 'distraction', but a tool to encourage each other, quickly solve [small] problems, post links ... and if the quizz is too 'big' [requires to much time to answer on irc, then we suggest the quizer to post a mail to the ML ... I did not even try kawa yet, not a single line :) because I wanted to check #kawa first, if their would be people there, willing to answer and get newbie up and running ... if no #kawa, for me it is almost a dead end [I mean not sure I can maintain interest, don't know yet, lt's see] I'm a 'good' schemer by the way, or I should say good guiler, but close to zero java, and pretending to remain a zero java guy :) this said, I have to use/program imagej for 1 of my customers, and till now I use clojure [because #clojure is extremely active, and irc wise, people helped me there like crazy, thanks all of them of course] ... but, I don't like clojure :) so, i want to try kawa, with some help I should, if i'm not mistaken, 'import' any java, any jar, and play the same way, I mean in better ways even, then what i can do using clojure, is this reasonable assumption? Cheers, David