From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 51937 invoked by alias); 18 Sep 2015 23:51:02 -0000 Mailing-List: contact kawa-help@sourceware.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: , Sender: kawa-owner@sourceware.org Received: (qmail 51928 invoked by uid 89); 18 Sep 2015 23:51:02 -0000 Authentication-Results: sourceware.org; auth=none X-Virus-Found: No X-Spam-SWARE-Status: No, score=1.1 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_05,KAM_LAZY_DOMAIN_SECURITY,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE autolearn=no version=3.3.2 X-HELO: maximusconfessor.all2all.org Received: from maximusconfessor.all2all.org (HELO maximusconfessor.all2all.org) (79.99.200.102) by sourceware.org (qpsmtpd/0.93/v0.84-503-g423c35a) with ESMTP; Fri, 18 Sep 2015 23:51:00 +0000 Received: from localhost (unknown [192.168.0.2]) by maximusconfessor.all2all.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37CE6A04C2E1; Sat, 19 Sep 2015 01:50:58 +0200 (CEST) Received: from maximusconfessor.all2all.org ([192.168.0.1]) by localhost (maximusconfessor.all2all.org [192.168.0.2]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id A2SjMoZeFsVQ; Sat, 19 Sep 2015 01:50:51 +0200 (CEST) Received: from capac (unknown [200.216.53.250]) by maximusconfessor.all2all.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id A5B4BA04C2E8; Sat, 19 Sep 2015 01:50:50 +0200 (CEST) Date: Fri, 18 Sep 2015 23:51:00 -0000 From: David Pirotte To: Per Bothner Cc: kawa@sourceware.org Subject: Re: irc Message-ID: <20150918205048.1b627982@capac> In-Reply-To: <55FC969C.4030902@bothner.com> References: <55FC80B8.2000708@bothner.com> <20150918194102.17bd0211@capac> <55FC969C.4030902@bothner.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; boundary="Sig_/GyyT3AiKp0qQ8iK9/fyuCWS"; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-IsSubscribed: yes X-SW-Source: 2015-q3/txt/msg00052.txt.bz2 --Sig_/GyyT3AiKp0qQ8iK9/fyuCWS Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-length: 1630 > > so, i want to try kawa, with some help I should, if i'm not mistaken, '= import' > > any java, any jar, and play the same way, I mean in better ways even, t= hen what > > i can do using clojure, is this reasonable assumption? >=20 > I've been told that Kawa has better Java integration than Clojure. > Kawa makes it easy to extend Java classes, use annotations, parameterized= types > (to an extent). If you define-simple-class you get a very straight-forwar= d mapping > to a Java class. The colon syntax OBJ:PROPERTY first looks for a field PR= OPERTY in > OBJ; and then it automatically look for a getPROPERTY method. Etc etc. great! now i need to read a tutorial on how to ... like i wrote in my last imagej/clojure email, as an example of a starting point... > A big potential advantage is that with Kawa you just need the kawa.jar. = You don't > need to install and learn a new tool philosopy (i.e. leiningen) - which c= auses > extra startup slow-down. Kawa starts up really fast. That really totally got me off clojure! exactly, exactly what we don't want= to do: learning another extra 'tool', I totally agree with you and these folks on = redit! We want emacs, scheme, the autotool chain and git [bash, but these days i writ= e my scripts in scheme as well]. > https://www.reddit.com/r/lisp/comments/2df2rm/should_my_startup_attempt_t= o_use_abcl_in_a/ > BTW I do recommend building Kawa from Subversion; the "released" jar is a= bit old. > I'd like to make a new official release, but I'm in the middle of various= changes. Any git somewhere? I'm a good git user, no svn experience Cheers, David --Sig_/GyyT3AiKp0qQ8iK9/fyuCWS Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-length: 473 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iQEcBAEBCAAGBQJV/KNYAAoJEPN0/ZOjBXrXGt0H/0WO/8h1cLejiTKbcqHfqgOa S/0u3wDqI5kXcKpI3zO+xxDbiVCxPhGAEqMp7uqvI+S9vPolIOvh6HwXNNzf7Ld8 Jp8R/v3eJPeuVEhNKEYzR5au0oJbfJXyhsVkh3Dwv5AMq1YfizoV5STdWuiZYVcZ cpn3gpQXFbdRZCL38Tr+tiNbB3hvw+CtgKxth6ot4wH1yPHVz6ynAPd11Sy9IH/1 xqG5ME4EEK+h4jI+B+5HsmL14+UlUwkQl3IagswJUfrPCor28PmpsRiqOlnIhLCe R9/eH4pAIeInMJGYyRigCNKj0Gzm5rwn8dYmFkQaV7g3gq0QG9+wlZgojQiaPAQ= =o03E -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/GyyT3AiKp0qQ8iK9/fyuCWS--