From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 34748 invoked by alias); 28 Oct 2017 17:54:35 -0000 Mailing-List: contact kawa-help@sourceware.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: , Sender: kawa-owner@sourceware.org Received: (qmail 34737 invoked by uid 89); 28 Oct 2017 17:54:35 -0000 Authentication-Results: sourceware.org; auth=none X-Virus-Found: No X-Spam-SWARE-Status: No, score=-1.4 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,KAM_LAZY_DOMAIN_SECURITY,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW autolearn=no version=3.3.2 spammy=attractive, H*F:D*be, explains, grip X-HELO: maximusconfessor.all2all.org Received: from maximusconfessor.all2all.org (HELO maximusconfessor.all2all.org) (79.99.200.102) by sourceware.org (qpsmtpd/0.93/v0.84-503-g423c35a) with ESMTP; Sat, 28 Oct 2017 17:54:34 +0000 Received: from localhost (unknown [192.168.0.2]) by maximusconfessor.all2all.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36553A04C12C; Sat, 28 Oct 2017 19:54:32 +0200 (CEST) Received: from maximusconfessor.all2all.org ([192.168.0.1]) by localhost (maximusconfessor.all2all.org [192.168.0.2]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 1D3qhMOPw+oM; Sat, 28 Oct 2017 19:54:27 +0200 (CEST) Received: from capac (unknown [179.210.16.71]) by maximusconfessor.all2all.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id E8DC6A04C11E; Sat, 28 Oct 2017 19:54:26 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2017 17:54:00 -0000 From: David Pirotte To: Per Bothner Cc: kawa Subject: Re: a Kawa wikipedia page would be cool... Message-ID: <20171028155420.376ebafc@capac> In-Reply-To: References: <20171028135154.105fe496@capac> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; boundary="Sig_/7YcJ_HUWuTCAb+4BsK9ka_K"; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-IsSubscribed: yes X-SW-Source: 2017-q4/txt/msg00022.txt.bz2 --Sig_/7YcJ_HUWuTCAb+4BsK9ka_K Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-length: 2061 Hi Per, > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kawa_(Scheme_implementation) Ah, I did enter 'kawa' in the search box of the hy wikipedia page before to= post here, and it does not list anything about Kawa_(Scheme_...). I just tried a= gain using the search box of the kawa page, just to confirm, and same 'no match' Maybe worth a word with the wikipedia folks... I really don't like the 1st sentence, because it gives the impression it is= for language implementors only, where as, imo, kawa is a scheme implementation,= first and before anything else, that allows programmers _not_ to have write java= (the clojure 'slogan, nobody should never have to write java code...) The page should really be reviewed, to make it extremely attractive, and _t= he_ language that one would want to use if they have to do anything in java ...= it should also explains the advantages it has over clojure (start-up time and = a so much better integration with the java class system ... all this with real example, a real complete little app... a 2D clock, as I wrote for guile-clutter might be a good example, and how = one could run it in java, and android ... maybe :) http://www.nongnu.org/grip/examples.html Then it says To run Kawa on GNU/Linux: $ export CLASSPATH=3D$CLASSPATH:/path/to/kawa/kawa-1.10.jar 1.10 ? ...=20 Voil=C3=A0 :) my 2c Not me though, I'm totally over loaded with my GNU projects and rarely use kawa anyway (I do when I have to use imagej, precisely because I don't want to write in java... One of the superior advantage of kawa to clojure is that we don't even need to interact with the java ecosystem, just kawa -C mycode.scm > mycode.Class then we can import and, you feel like you are in Guile, or Racket All we need is emacs, and a repl, then geiser: Per, any progress on dynamic (re)compilation? not a big deal, just curious It is just that I am irritated to see clojure every where and never kawa, w= hich is so much better ... so today I did my part and added this entry in the HY pa= ge :):) Cheers, David --Sig_/7YcJ_HUWuTCAb+4BsK9ka_K Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-length: 488 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQEzBAEBCgAdFiEEhCJlRZtBM3furJHe83T9k6MFetcFAln0xEwACgkQ83T9k6MF etdsxwf/UtuqDkSO3nB2QYMk6GQgamc9iyf5WmFm1WhFNfcAueX8Uaz3GMCwsrtS k9rAfm9lBfpcR8h9NeDS/xMkS50MXTHwLFaQXFI/u7TqM4Yjc6PL1gC1FlnEADAL BvXfkmiT+GbD8TAw58XeovkTtYbX4nMnRpthE9cfoT7dN84gH70G3Qw6FS4tjYHy i904XXXlreLAE6fTDNo+jM4zDhPcbzsFwEWof29dPvC/Gn0juAzuslUt3VIinA2v YZJXQO+fAFn0lI56voFXbz3xJ0cZ2hPTu4AJKdB16jep+Ox37bhljKOffffcDv4o zuTEeApdfp8Oyei9EGQ4Xj09SxaIFw== =2f7d -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/7YcJ_HUWuTCAb+4BsK9ka_K--