From: Per Bothner <per@bothner.com>
To: phiroc@free.fr
Cc: kawa@sourceware.org
Subject: Re: define-syntax can only be used with local variables
Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2021 03:48:14 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <454a1ecf-adcb-43a9-ce47-29ec45d8b667@bothner.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1713055755.220998399.1631862007856.JavaMail.root@zimbra65-e11.priv.proxad.net>
On 9/17/21 12:00 AM, phiroc@free.fr wrote:
> Hi Per,
>
> thank you for you input.
>
> The R7RS report says the following:
>
> "If the define-syntax occurs at the outermost level, then
> the global syntactic environment is extended by binding
> the keyword to the specified transformer, but previous
> expansions of any global binding for keyword remain unchanged.
> Otherwise, it is an internal syntax definition, and
> is local to the body in which it is defined. Any use of a
> syntax keyword before its corresponding definition is an
> error. In particular, any use that precedes an inner definition
> will not apply an outer definition."
>
> So, as far as I am concerned, Kawa's behavior is the norm:
> a previously-defined global variable can't be reset by a define-syntax.
That is not what R7RS is saying. It is talking about when you define a
keyword FOO using define-syntax at the outermost level; then use (expand) FOO;
then redefine FOO: In that case the previous expansions of FOO are unchanged.
This is in contrast to a function re-definition, where calls to FOO
in old calls should use the new FOO.
Kawa by default does some inlining that conflicts with this goal, hence the
kludge solution for issue #44. Kawa has a --no-inline flag that makes Kawa
behave more like a traditional Scheme REPL. Doing --no-inline has some
problems, but perhaps a modified --no-inline default for REPLs might work.
--
--Per Bothner
per@bothner.com http://per.bothner.com/
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2021-09-10 7:33 ` phiroc
2021-09-14 12:42 ` Damien Mattei
2021-09-14 16:14 ` Philippe de Rochambeau
2021-09-14 16:34 ` Damien Mattei
2021-09-14 16:58 ` Philippe de Rochambeau
2021-09-14 17:26 ` Per Bothner
2021-09-14 17:38 ` Damien Mattei
2021-09-14 17:58 ` Damien Mattei
2021-09-14 18:00 ` Damien Mattei
2021-09-14 18:07 ` Per Bothner
2021-09-14 18:38 ` Damien Mattei
2021-09-14 19:30 ` Per Bothner
2021-09-15 7:10 ` phiroc
2021-09-16 10:02 ` phiroc
2021-09-16 10:41 ` Damien MATTEI
2021-09-16 11:05 ` phiroc
2021-09-16 13:44 ` Damien MATTEI
2021-09-17 5:29 ` Per Bothner
2021-09-17 7:00 ` phiroc
2021-09-17 10:48 ` Per Bothner [this message]
2021-09-16 21:11 ` Per Bothner
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