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From: Per Bothner <per@bothner.com>
To: Marius Kjeldahl <marius.kjeldahl@gmail.com>, kawa@sourceware.org
Subject: Re: Questions regarding modules
Date: Sat, 01 Mar 2014 23:06:00 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <531267B8.6040407@bothner.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAHdMyCJYL=6YJ0oT1pbLdA57kGRCXMRVM1QxyfWar0pzErYsrw@mail.gmail.com>

On 03/01/2014 07:52 AM, Marius Kjeldahl wrote:
> Question 1 - The line that does require HelloKawa; Unless I list the
> filename "HelloKawa.scm" as the second parameter, I will get a kawa
> compiler error; invalid specifier for 'require'. I have no idea why.
> I've experienced with setting the working dir prior to calling the
> kawa compiler, but it does not seem to matter much. It looks like kawa
> has it's own idea about the proper path for start searching for the
> source file for the module.

IIRC the filename "HelloKawa.scm" is needed in a require if
the file is not already-compiled *and* it is not currently being
compiled (i.e. on the kawa -C command line).

This may change if/when we implement R7RS define-library, or
we implement some kind of Scheme packaging mechanism, as has been discussed.

> Question 2 - When invoking (HelloKawa:hello), how come kawa knows
> about my HelloKawa class without the full class name? I haven't done
> any define-alias on it, so it's a bit unexpected.

When you (require MODULE) what happens is that all the public (exported)
names in MODULE are added to the current lexical scope.  The class HelloKawa
is a public exported Scheme name in the HelloKawa module - since they happen
to have the same name - and they happen to get compiled to the same class.

A (define-simple-class HelloKawa () ...) creates a definition of the
identifier HelloKawa in the current Scheme scope - and that binding
is by default exported.  This action is in addition and distinct from
the action of create a JCM class net.kjeldahl.kawatest.app.HelloKawa.

Conceptually the "module class" net.kjeldahl.kawatest.app.HelloKawa
is different from the define-simple-class HelloKawa.  They're just
implemented using a single class, with module-level functionality being
static, and define-simple-class-level stuff being (usually) non-static.

> Question 3 - The file defining HelloKawa uses define-simple-class, but
> I've also tried it with a straight up define instead (you'll see that
> commented out in the source file above). If I do that, I get two
> errors from kawa; no known slot hello in java.lang.Object, and no
> declaration seen for HelloKawa.

Hopefully the previous answers will explain this.

>Based on what I've read, this second
> method of defining a module should work as long as we stay within the
> kawa domain, but I may have interpreted that wrong.

There is no special magic for the "kawa" domain.  They is some special
magic for "kawa.lib" when using R7RS-style import.
-- 
	--Per Bothner
per@bothner.com   http://per.bothner.com/

  parent reply	other threads:[~2014-03-01 23:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-03-01 15:52 Marius Kjeldahl
2014-03-01 22:30 ` Marius Kjeldahl
2014-03-01 23:06 ` Per Bothner [this message]
2014-03-03  9:06   ` Per Bothner
2014-03-03  9:23     ` Marius Kjeldahl
2014-03-03 20:30       ` Per Bothner
2014-03-03 20:50         ` Marius Kjeldahl
2014-03-03 21:15           ` Per Bothner
     [not found]             ` <CAHdMyCKEqZXfpqTL-AX5q+XAQNq3cChoYFa0aDDVet+_PX_2og@mail.gmail.com>
2014-03-03 21:42               ` Fwd: " Marius Kjeldahl
2014-03-04  9:10     ` Per Bothner
2014-03-04  9:55       ` Marius Kjeldahl
2014-03-04 17:23         ` Per Bothner
2014-03-04 18:26           ` Marius Kjeldahl
2014-03-04 18:48             ` Per Bothner
2014-03-04 18:58               ` Marius Kjeldahl
2014-03-04 20:16                 ` Per Bothner

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