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From: Per Bothner <per@bothner.com>
To: list+org.sourceware.kawa@io7m.com
Cc: kawa@sourceware.org
Subject: Re: Are types checked statically?
Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2017 22:57:00 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <8847c956-30b3-8cf5-f911-8502be64e6b6@bothner.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170316173830.59958bf8@copperhead.int.arc7.info>

On 03/16/2017 10:38 AM, list+org.sourceware.kawa@io7m.com wrote:
> On 2017-03-16T10:23:24 -0700
> Per Bothner <per@bothner.com> wrote:

>> Kawa currently doesn't have "function types" - the type of all
>> functions is just 'procedure' without any specification of
>> argument or result types.  However, the following is on the wish-list:
>> https://www.gnu.org/software/kawa/Ideas-and-tasks.html#Optimized-function-types-and-values-using-MethodHandles
>
> I'm not sure I understand this fully. I'm familiar with JVM internals,
> including method handles, but the above is more an issue of efficiency
> than of correctly checking the types of functions, isn't it? Unless I'm
> mistaken, Kawa lambda expressions have the proper types and the types
> are checked statically, right? They just may not have an efficient
> underlying representation on the JVM.

It's not just performance.  A *specific* lambda expression has proper types,
and if you call a *known* procedure it is type-checked.  However, there is
no way to say "the value of this variable is an unknown function that takes
(T1 .. Tn) arguments and returns a Tr result".  That is a major part of what
the linked proposal does - in addition to enabling better code generation.
It is possible to add procedure types, and only use them for type-checking,
without optimizing the calling convention.
-- 
	--Per Bothner
per@bothner.com   http://per.bothner.com/

      reply	other threads:[~2017-03-16 22:57 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 4+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-03-16 17:02 list+org.sourceware.kawa
2017-03-16 17:23 ` Per Bothner
2017-03-16 17:39   ` list+org.sourceware.kawa
2017-03-16 22:57     ` Per Bothner [this message]

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