From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 58729 invoked by alias); 18 Sep 2017 06:15:31 -0000 Mailing-List: contact kawa-help@sourceware.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: , Sender: kawa-owner@sourceware.org Received: (qmail 58715 invoked by uid 89); 18 Sep 2017 06:15:30 -0000 Authentication-Results: sourceware.org; auth=none X-Virus-Found: No X-Spam-SWARE-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_PASS autolearn=ham version=3.3.2 spammy= X-HELO: aibo.runbox.com Received: from aibo.runbox.com (HELO aibo.runbox.com) (91.220.196.211) by sourceware.org (qpsmtpd/0.93/v0.84-503-g423c35a) with ESMTP; Mon, 18 Sep 2017 06:15:20 +0000 Received: from [10.9.9.212] (helo=mailfront12.runbox.com) by mailtransmit02.runbox with esmtp (Exim 4.86_2) (envelope-from ) id 1dtpKv-0007kz-IO; Mon, 18 Sep 2017 08:15:17 +0200 Received: from 70-36-239-144.dsl.dynamic.fusionbroadband.com ([70.36.239.144] helo=localhost.localdomain) by mailfront12.runbox.com with esmtpsa (uid:757155 ) (TLS1.2:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.82) id 1dtpKu-0003g2-T1; Mon, 18 Sep 2017 08:15:17 +0200 Subject: Re: Environment Introspection To: Peter , kawa@sourceware.org References: <87lgldyrg8.fsf@nexoid.at> <1222b13d-969b-d59f-4808-280199b140bc@bothner.com> <87efr4a7ft.fsf@nexoid.at> From: Per Bothner Message-ID: Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2017 06:15:00 -0000 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <87efr4a7ft.fsf@nexoid.at> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IsSubscribed: yes X-SW-Source: 2017-q3/txt/msg00060.txt.bz2 On 09/17/2017 10:42 PM, Peter wrote: > Hello Per! > > Thanks for the answers ;) > >>> (This is for implementing a swank server for multiple Schemes, >>> to make them work with SLIME). >> I think supporting the Language Server Protocol is most promising path for >> IDE support (including on Emacs), but it's great if you can make Swank/Slime useful. > > I haven't looked into it closely yet, but is there an Emacs frontend > that supports unified debugging and inspection? That's the reason I'm > interested in SLIME at all, compared to geiser. I don't just want an > interface to the existing repl, I want actual debugging, inspection and > tracing support ;) As far as I can tell, the Language Server Protocol does not support debugging. It handles things like code completion, cross-references, error messages, etc. I'm guessing LSP-based IDE handle debugging some other wise - if they handle debugging at all. > Things are working ok so far, I'll just see how far I > get ;) Once you have something useful, I'd like to see a "how-to" style writeup. > > Relatedly, is there any secial support in kawa for stack traces, or > would I just use normal java introspection? The latter. -- --Per Bothner per@bothner.com http://per.bothner.com/