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From: Ben Woodard <woodard@redhat.com>
To: gprocida at google dot com <sourceware-bugzilla@sourceware.org>
Cc: libabigail@sourceware.org
Subject: Re: [Bug default/28954] New: add Linux Kernel symbol namespace support
Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2022 07:52:19 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <713ACA03-1A66-4BE8-9EA8-5ECA0C478A46@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <bug-28954-9487@http.sourceware.org/bugzilla/>

I’m a little confused by this the LKM name spacing doesn’t seem to use any of the symbol mangling that C++ does. From the links that you posted it seems like the way that the kernel mangles these names is simply by putting “.<subsystem>” into the ELF linkage name. This confuses me because, I would think that this change in linkage name would show up in ABI reports but your bug description below suggests that it doesn’t. I must be missing something.

-ben

> On Mar 10, 2022, at 5:26 AM, gprocida at google dot com via Libabigail <libabigail@sourceware.org> wrote:
> 
> https://sourceware.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=28954
> 
>            Bug ID: 28954
>           Summary: add Linux Kernel symbol namespace support
>           Product: libabigail
>           Version: unspecified
>            Status: UNCONFIRMED
>          Severity: normal
>          Priority: P2
>         Component: default
>          Assignee: dodji at redhat dot com
>          Reporter: gprocida at google dot com
>                CC: libabigail at sourceware dot org
>  Target Milestone: ---
> 
> Hi.
> 
> We have started to see Linux kernel symbol namespace changes break module
> loading, without being picked up by ABI monitoring beforehand.
> 
> If a symbol has a namespace, then any module attempting to use it (run-time
> load check) must have imported (compile-time) the namespace. Load failure can
> be commuted to a warning but I doubt we would do that for Android.
> 
> In terms of ABI monitoring, a change to a symbol's namespace should be reported
> as an ABI diff.
> 
> While it might also be nice to store the imported namespaces per module (at the
> abg-corpus level), without also tracking undefined symbols this wouldn't allow
> any automatic checking of kernel / module compatibility. Also, there is a
> compile-time check that does that anyway. We are trying to ensure that
> separately built kernel and modules will (continue to) work together.
> 
> At a minimum we need the following:
> 
> * new ELF symbol XML attribute (and possible documentation update)
> * new field in ELF symbol
> * symtab reader changes to populate this
> * XML writer change to print this
> * XML reader change to read this
> * categorisation of symbol namespace changes (probably the same as for CRCs)
> * symbol namespace diff generation / reporting
> 
> I'm happy to start work on this, but would welcome any early feedback.
> 
> References
> 
> https://www.kernel.org/doc/html/latest/core-api/symbol-namespaces.html
> https://lwn.net/Articles/760045/
> https://lpc.events/event/2/contributions/220/attachments/44/51/01._Symbol_Namespaces__Plumbers_v2.pdf
> 
> Giuliano.
> 
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  reply	other threads:[~2022-03-10 15:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 6+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-03-10 13:25 gprocida at google dot com
2022-03-10 15:52 ` Ben Woodard [this message]
2022-03-10 15:53 ` [Bug default/28954] " woodard at redhat dot com
2022-03-10 16:25 ` gprocida at google dot com
2022-03-10 17:25 ` gprocida at google dot com
2022-03-11 12:20 ` maennich at android dot com

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