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From: <rsbecker@nexbridge.com>
To: "'Theo de Raadt'" <deraadt@openbsd.org>
Cc: "'Alejandro Colomar \(man-pages\)'" <alx.manpages@gmail.com>,
	"'Libc-alpha'" <libc-alpha@sourceware.org>,
	"'linux-man'" <linux-man@vger.kernel.org>, <git@vger.kernel.org>,
	<tech@openbsd.org>
Subject: RE: Is getpass(3) really obsolete?
Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2021 10:18:04 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <00e401d7cccf$ccde0d40$669a27c0$@nexbridge.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <63238.1635515736@cvs.openbsd.org>

On October 29, 2021 9:56 AM, Theo de Raadt wrote:
> Subject: Re: Is getpass(3) really obsolete?
> <rsbecker@nexbridge.com> wrote:
> 
> > On October 29, 2021 7:29 AM, Alejandro Colomar wrote:
> > > On 10/29/21 13:15, Alejandro Colomar wrote:
> > > > Hi,
> > > >
> > > > As the manual pages says, SUSv2 marked it as LEGACY, and POSIX
> > > > doesn't have it at all.  The manual page goes further and says
> > > > "This function is obsolete. Do not use it." in its first lines.
> > > >
> > > > But, glibc doesn't seem to have deprecated this function at all.
> > > > And it seems to be the most portable way to get a password, even
> > > > if it's not in POSIX.
> > > >
> > > > BSDs have readpassphrase(3), but glibc doesn't, so unless you
> > > > recommend
> > >
> > > OpenBSD also marks getpass(3) as obsolete and recommends
> > > readpassphrase(3):
> > > <https://man.openbsd.org/getpass>
> > >
> > > > using readpassphrase(3) from libbsd, or plan to add it to glibc, I
> > > > think
> > > > getpass(3) should be the recommended function in Linux, and
> > > > therefore we should remove the hard words against it.
> > > >
> > > > As a real example, git(1) uses getpass(3).
> > > > <https://github.com/git/git/blob/master/compat/terminal.c>
> > > >
> > > > What are your thoughts?
> >
> > getpass() is obsolete in POSIX.2. However, some platforms still are on
POSIX.1,
> so replacing it instead of providing a configure detection/switch for it
might
> cause issues.
> 
> 
> The community finally had the balls to get rid of gets(3).
> 
> getpass(3) shares the same flaw, that the buffer size isn't passed.
> This has been an issue in the past, and incorrectly led to
readpassphrase(3)
> 
> readpassphrase(3) has a few too many features/extensions for my taste, but
at
> least it is harder to abuse.

readpassphrase is not generally supported. This will break builds on many
platforms.


  reply	other threads:[~2021-10-29 14:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-10-29 11:15 Alejandro Colomar
2021-10-29 11:28 ` Alejandro Colomar (man-pages)
2021-10-29 11:40   ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2021-10-29 12:11     ` Alejandro Colomar (man-pages)
2021-10-29 16:31       ` Joseph Myers
2021-10-30 12:24         ` Alejandro Colomar (man-pages)
2021-11-01 21:31           ` Joseph Myers
2021-10-29 12:10   ` rsbecker
2021-10-29 13:55     ` Eugene Syromyatnikov
2021-10-29 13:55     ` Theo de Raadt
2021-10-29 14:18       ` rsbecker [this message]
2021-10-29 14:21         ` Theo de Raadt
2021-10-29 14:33           ` rsbecker
2021-10-29 14:44             ` Alejandro Colomar (man-pages)
2021-10-29 15:00               ` rsbecker
2021-10-29 14:53       ` Zack Weinberg
2022-09-27 19:19         ` readpassphrase(3) in glibc, and agetpass() (Was: Is getpass(3) really obsolete?) Alejandro Colomar
2022-09-27 19:33           ` Alex Colomar
2022-09-27 20:30           ` Sam James
2022-09-27 21:00             ` Zack Weinberg
2022-09-27 22:41               ` Alejandro Colomar
2022-09-27 20:52           ` readpassphrase(3) in glibc, and agetpass() Junio C Hamano
2021-10-29 15:27   ` [PATCH] getpass.3: SYNOPSIS: Mark getpass() as [[deprecated]] Alejandro Colomar
2021-10-29 20:27   ` Is getpass(3) really obsolete? Jeff King

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