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From: Florian Weimer <fweimer@redhat.com>
To: Zack Weinberg <zackw@panix.com>, Joseph Myers <joseph@codesourcery.com>
Cc: GNU C Library <libc-alpha@sourceware.org>
Subject: Re: Remove add-ons mechanism
Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2017 11:04:00 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <04a26ee0-1b14-2949-1cae-6e318525d87c@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAKCAbMjrESb7_3=9ueuMKWeHwBJ9q_8_TdtojPejNPCr3JEUrw@mail.gmail.com>

On 09/29/2017 12:01 AM, Zack Weinberg wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 28, 2017 at 1:49 PM, Joseph Myers <joseph@codesourcery.com> wrote:
>>
>> Add-ons involve significant, little-used complexity in the glibc build
>> system, and make it hard to understand what the space of possible
>> glibc configurations is.  This patch removes the add-ons mechanism.
> 
> I don't disagree with this patch exactly, but I was thinking of using
> the add-ons mechanism to prototype a CSPRNG addition to glibc

I've got something towards an implementation of arc4random (not 
certifiable, but it should be unpredictable in practice).

I think I found a way to do full fork protection even without 
MADV_WIPEONFORK, using a global counter in a MAP_SHARED segment. 
Reseeding is still needed to deal with a counter overflow on 32-bit 
architectures, and there is some overhead by the globally shared 
counter, but I think it is superior to all approaches I've seen so far 
(and it does not require a fork handler or a system call for every 
random number generation).

Thanks,
Florian

  parent reply	other threads:[~2017-09-29 11:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-09-28 17:49 Joseph Myers
2017-09-28 22:01 ` Zack Weinberg
2017-09-28 22:38   ` Joseph Myers
2017-09-29 11:04   ` Florian Weimer [this message]
2017-09-30  6:35 ` Florian Weimer
2017-09-30 21:42   ` Joseph Myers
2017-10-05 10:39 ` Andreas K. Huettel
2017-10-05 11:07   ` Florian Weimer
2017-10-05 12:54     ` Joseph Myers
2017-10-05 13:16       ` libcidn (was: Re: Remove add-ons mechanism) Andreas K. Huettel
2017-10-05 13:39         ` libcidn Andreas Schwab
2017-10-05 13:40         ` libcidn Florian Weimer
2017-10-05 21:11       ` Remove add-ons mechanism Andreas K. Huettel
2017-10-05 21:30         ` Joseph Myers
2017-10-05 15:59 ` Joseph Myers

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