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From: Carlos O'Donell <carlos@redhat.com>
To: Szabolcs Nagy <szabolcs.nagy@arm.com>
Cc: Adhemerval Zanella <adhemerval.zanella@linaro.org>,
	libc-alpha@sourceware.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 06/14] elf: Use relaxed atomics for racy accesses [BZ #19329]
Date: Wed, 12 May 2021 16:33:41 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <09940a6d-8db7-9ef7-cc69-244c2b9d8031@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20210511093105.GH9028@arm.com>

On 5/11/21 5:31 AM, Szabolcs Nagy wrote:
> The 05/10/2021 22:56, Carlos O'Donell wrote:
>> On 4/16/21 5:12 AM, Szabolcs Nagy via Libc-alpha wrote:
>>> The 04/15/2021 15:21, Adhemerval Zanella wrote:
>>>> On 13/04/2021 05:19, Szabolcs Nagy via Libc-alpha wrote:
>>>>> This is a follow up patch to the fix for bug 19329.  This adds
>>>>> relaxed MO atomics to accesses that are racy, but relaxed MO is
>>>>> enough.
>>>>
>>>> Could you extend a bit why relaxed MO should be suffice?
>>>
>>> is it ok to change the commit message to:
>>>
>>> This is a follow up patch to the fix for bug 19329.  This adds relaxed
>>> MO atomics to accesses that are racy, but relaxed MO is enough.
>>
>> Suggest:
>>
>> This is a follow up patch to the fix for bug 19329.  This adds relaxed
>> MO atomics to accesses that were previously data races but are now
>> race conditions, and where relaxed MO is sufficient.
>>  
>>> The racy accesses all follow the pattern that the write is behind the
>>
>> s/racy accesses/race conditions/g
>>
>>> dlopen lock, but a read can happen concurrently (e.g. during tls access)
>>> without holding the lock.  For slotinfo entries the read value only
>>> matters if it reads from a synchronized write in dlopen or dlclose,
>>> otherwise the related dtv entry is not valid to access so it is fine to
>>> leave it in inconsistent state. Same for GL(dl_tls_max_dtv_idx) and
>>
>> s/it in/it in an/g
>>
>> s/Same/The same applies for/g
>>
>>> GL(dl_tls_generation), but there we rely on the read value being larger
>>> than the last written value that was synchronized.
>>
>> Do you mean to imply that the synchronized writes all increase the generation
>> counter, and so any out of order reads rely on the value to be increasing?
> 
> yes, if the current thread is synchronized with a dlopen and reads
> GL(dl_tls_genertion) with relaxed MO then either the gen of the
> dlopened module is read or a larger value. So we can use relaxed MO
> value to see if the dtv needs update at tls access.
> 
> (This is the difficult bit in fixing bug 19924: we can use relaxed
> MO because we update the dtv upto the gen of the module. slotinfo
> entries with larger gen are ignored, but if we want to update upto
> the global gen then we need additional synchronization.)
> 
>> Suggested:
>> The same applies for GL(dl_tls_max_dtv_idx) and GL(dl_tls_generation), but
>> there the algorithm relies on the fact that the read of the last synchronized
>> write is an increasing value.
> 
> Thanks for the review, i attached the fixed patch i plan to commit
> later today if there are no further comments.
 
Thanks. I saw you commited this and it looked good to me!

Thanks for working through these issues!

-- 
Cheers,
Carlos.


  parent reply	other threads:[~2021-05-12 20:33 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-04-13  8:17 [PATCH v2 00/14] Dynamic TLS related data race fixes Szabolcs Nagy
2021-04-13  8:18 ` [PATCH v2 01/14] elf: Fix a DTV setup issue [BZ #27136] Szabolcs Nagy
2021-04-13  8:36   ` Andreas Schwab
2021-04-13  9:35     ` Szabolcs Nagy
2021-04-13 10:22       ` Andreas Schwab
2021-04-13 10:34         ` Szabolcs Nagy
2021-04-13 10:51           ` Andreas Schwab
2021-04-13  8:18 ` [PATCH v2 02/14] elf: Add a DTV setup test " Szabolcs Nagy
2021-04-14 18:06   ` Adhemerval Zanella
2021-04-15  9:53     ` Szabolcs Nagy
2021-04-13  8:18 ` [PATCH v2 03/14] elf: Fix comments and logic in _dl_add_to_slotinfo Szabolcs Nagy
2021-04-14 18:12   ` Adhemerval Zanella
2021-04-13  8:18 ` [PATCH v2 04/14] elf: Refactor _dl_update_slotinfo to avoid use after free Szabolcs Nagy
2021-04-14 18:20   ` Adhemerval Zanella
2021-04-13  8:19 ` [PATCH v2 05/14] elf: Fix data races in pthread_create and TLS access [BZ #19329] Szabolcs Nagy
2021-04-15 17:44   ` Adhemerval Zanella
2021-04-13  8:19 ` [PATCH v2 06/14] elf: Use relaxed atomics for racy accesses " Szabolcs Nagy
2021-04-15 18:21   ` Adhemerval Zanella
2021-04-16  9:12     ` Szabolcs Nagy
2021-05-11  2:56       ` Carlos O'Donell
2021-05-11  9:31         ` Szabolcs Nagy
2021-05-11 16:19           ` Szabolcs Nagy
2021-05-12 20:33           ` Carlos O'Donell [this message]
2021-04-13  8:19 ` [PATCH v2 07/14] elf: Add test case for " Szabolcs Nagy
2021-04-15 19:21   ` Adhemerval Zanella
2021-04-13  8:20 ` [PATCH v2 08/14] elf: Fix DTV gap reuse logic [BZ #27135] Szabolcs Nagy
2021-04-15 19:45   ` Adhemerval Zanella
2021-06-24  9:48   ` Florian Weimer
2021-06-24 12:27     ` Florian Weimer
2021-06-24 12:57       ` Adhemerval Zanella
2021-06-24 14:20         ` Florian Weimer
2021-06-24 18:58       ` Szabolcs Nagy
2021-04-13  8:20 ` [PATCH v2 09/14] x86_64: Avoid lazy relocation of tlsdesc [BZ #27137] Szabolcs Nagy
2021-04-13 14:02   ` H.J. Lu
2021-04-13  8:20 ` [PATCH v2 10/14] i386: " Szabolcs Nagy
2021-04-13 14:02   ` H.J. Lu
2021-04-13  8:21 ` [PATCH v2 11/14] x86_64: Remove lazy tlsdesc relocation related code Szabolcs Nagy
2021-04-13 14:03   ` H.J. Lu
2021-04-13  8:21 ` [PATCH v2 12/14] i386: " Szabolcs Nagy
2021-04-13 14:04   ` H.J. Lu
2021-04-13  8:21 ` [PATCH v2 13/14] elf: " Szabolcs Nagy
2021-04-15 19:52   ` Adhemerval Zanella
2021-04-13  8:21 ` [PATCH v2 14/14] RFC elf: Fix slow tls access after dlopen [BZ #19924] Szabolcs Nagy
2022-09-16  9:54   ` Carlos O'Donell

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