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From: Florian Weimer <fweimer@redhat.com>
To: Andreas Schwab <schwab@suse.de>
Cc: GNU C Library <libc-alpha@sourceware.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] <bits/syscall.h>: Use an arch-independent system call list on Linux
Date: Thu, 06 Apr 2017 10:12:00 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <0be44a08-16c1-e904-272a-6322f51e7b0c@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <mvminmhetn1.fsf@suse.de>

On 04/06/2017 12:07 PM, Andreas Schwab wrote:
> On Apr 06 2017, Florian Weimer <fweimer@redhat.com> wrote:
>
>> I think the argument was that __NR_* should come from the kernel, and
>> SYS_* should come from glibc, and that the kernel has no business defining
>> SYS_* macros, purely based on namespace concerns.
>
> I don't know why you are talking about SYS_.  All that the kernel
> defines are __NR_.  The SYS_ defines are pure glibc stuff.

The separation is what causes problems because there is no way to tell 
the C preprocessor to export all __NR_* macros as SYS_* macros, too.

As a result, current glibc has this elaborate dance at built where it 
runs “gcc -E -dM” (with varying additional parameters to get the 
lib/libx32/lib64 variants).  I want to get rid of that because it means 
that if you upgrade the kernel headers after building glibc, the SYS_* 
and __NR_* macros drift apart.

>> Not sure if we are talking about the same thing.  Our kernel-headers
>> package comes from the kernel sources, 3.10 era.
>
> Consider splitting it out, they are really independent.  Then you can
> update the kernel headers without touching the kernel.

But I'd still have the issue that the kernel headers contain only the 
__NR_* macros, not the SYS_* macros.

If you think that SYS_* macros should remain glibc business, then I 
think the patch I posted is the right approach to simplify independent 
kernel header updates (whether they come from a separate package, or 
directly from the upstream sources).

Thanks,
Florian

  reply	other threads:[~2017-04-06 10:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 47+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-04-05 19:40 Florian Weimer
2017-04-06  8:00 ` Andreas Schwab
2017-04-06  8:52   ` Florian Weimer
2017-04-06  9:03     ` Andreas Schwab
2017-04-06  9:47       ` Florian Weimer
2017-04-06 10:07         ` Andreas Schwab
2017-04-06 10:12           ` Florian Weimer [this message]
2017-04-06 12:29             ` Andreas Schwab
2017-04-06 12:32               ` Florian Weimer
2017-04-06 12:49                 ` Andreas Schwab
2017-04-06 13:24                   ` Florian Weimer
2017-04-06 13:44                     ` Andreas Schwab
2017-04-06 14:22                       ` Florian Weimer
2017-04-06 14:37                         ` Dmitry V. Levin
2017-04-21 10:06                           ` Florian Weimer
2017-04-21 12:27                             ` Andreas Schwab
2017-04-21 12:37                               ` Florian Weimer
2017-04-21 18:31                               ` Carlos O'Donell
2017-04-21 18:02                                 ` Andreas Schwab
2017-04-21 18:46                                   ` Florian Weimer
2017-04-21 19:08                                     ` Andreas Schwab
2017-04-21 19:15                                       ` Florian Weimer
2017-04-21 19:34                                         ` Andreas Schwab
2017-04-21 19:37                                           ` Florian Weimer
2017-04-21 19:40                                             ` Andreas Schwab
2017-04-21 19:57                                               ` Florian Weimer
2017-04-22  9:38                                                 ` Andreas Schwab
2017-04-22 11:59                                                   ` Florian Weimer
2017-04-22 13:45                                                     ` Andreas Schwab
2017-04-22 14:22                                                       ` Florian Weimer
2017-04-22 15:08                                                         ` Andreas Schwab
2017-04-22 15:27                                                           ` Florian Weimer
2017-04-22 15:37                                                             ` Andreas Schwab
2017-04-22 15:51                                                               ` Florian Weimer
2017-04-22 17:27                                                                 ` Andreas Schwab
2017-08-24 14:35                                     ` Carlos O'Donell
2017-08-24 15:15                                       ` Joseph Myers
2017-08-24 16:08                                         ` Carlos O'Donell
2017-08-24 18:49                                         ` Florian Weimer
2017-08-24 20:28                                           ` Joseph Myers
2017-08-25 14:30                                             ` Florian Weimer
2017-08-25 15:40                                               ` Joseph Myers
2017-08-25 15:57                                                 ` Florian Weimer
2017-08-28 11:36                                                   ` Joseph Myers
2017-08-28 12:35                                                     ` Florian Weimer
2017-08-28 12:43                                                       ` Joseph Myers
2017-04-23  0:35                                 ` synchronizing kernel UAPI and libc headers Dmitry V. Levin

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