From: Siddhesh Poyarekar <siddhesh@sourceware.org>
To: Florian Weimer <fweimer@redhat.com>
Cc: "H.J. Lu" <hjl.tools@gmail.com>,
Carlos O'Donell <carlos@redhat.com>,
GNU C Library <libc-alpha@sourceware.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] ld.so: Handle read-only dynamic section gracefully [BZ #28340]
Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2021 09:21:30 +0530 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <0ee776ea-c389-05e3-b550-f0a435614fcd@sourceware.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87pmt7j26r.fsf@oldenburg.str.redhat.com>
On 9/17/21 9:14 AM, Florian Weimer wrote:
> * Siddhesh Poyarekar:
>
>> On 9/17/21 8:29 AM, H.J. Lu wrote:
>>> On Thu, Sep 16, 2021 at 7:47 PM Siddhesh Poyarekar
>>> <siddhesh@sourceware.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On 9/17/21 3:41 AM, H.J. Lu wrote:
>>>>>> 2. Do we want to leave .dynamic unrelocated for read-only DYNAMIC or
>>>>>> should we instead allocate an array to write relocated addresses in
>>>>>> there, like we did for vdso?
>>>>>
>>>>> My patch removed the hack for vDSO to leave the read-only
>>>>> PT_DYNAMIC segment unrelocated.
>>>>
>>>> Presuming that your rationale for this is your response from your other
>>>> email:
>>>>
>>>>> Non-glibc consumers of
>>>>> PT_DYNAMIC segment need to handle it differently for these non-ABI
>>>>> conforming binaries.
>>>>
>>>> could you qualify this a bit more? My reading of the spec[1] suggests
>>>> that the spec is silent on whether the .dynamic entries should be
>>>> writable, it merely says that the dynamic linker reads d_un.d_ptr and
>>>> adds the memory base address to it when referring to those addresses.
>>>> So calling them non-conforming seems wrong.
>>>>
>>> I was referring to
>>> extern ElfW(Dyn) _DYNAMIC[];
>>> On x86-64, _DYNAMIC entries are normally relocated. But for
>>> read-only
>>> DSOs, they are unrelocated. It isn't a problem for ld.so since it doesn't
>>> use it.
>>
>> OK, then we've traditionally had an inconsistency between the contents
>> of _DYNAMIC and l_info and this change would make that difference go
>> away. It's still a user-visible change as far as consumers of l_info
>> (through dl_iterate_phdr) are concerned.
>>
>> Why not just allocate a writable table for read-only DSOs and put the
>> relocated entries there, pointing the l_info[...] pointer to it? That
>> will ensure that the change is user-invisible.
>
> l_info isn't an exported field, is it? So this wouldn't make a
> difference.
Hmm, I thought it was but then on re-reading dl_iterate_phdr, it's only
possible to read through _DYNAMIC via the program headers.
In that case I think H. J.'s latest patch seems fine in principle. I
could do a proper review if you don't see any other issues here.
Siddhesh
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2021-09-17 3:51 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2021-09-14 19:09 Siddhesh Poyarekar
2021-09-14 19:15 ` Florian Weimer
2021-09-15 1:14 ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2021-09-15 14:35 ` H.J. Lu
2021-09-15 15:42 ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2021-09-15 16:13 ` H.J. Lu
2021-09-15 16:24 ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2021-09-15 16:34 ` H.J. Lu
2021-09-16 1:43 ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2021-09-16 2:23 ` H.J. Lu
2021-09-16 3:46 ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2021-09-16 4:26 ` H.J. Lu
2021-09-16 4:28 ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2021-09-16 4:30 ` H.J. Lu
2021-09-16 4:48 ` Florian Weimer
2021-09-16 5:36 ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2021-09-16 5:46 ` Florian Weimer
2021-09-16 6:04 ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2021-09-16 14:11 ` Carlos O'Donell
2021-09-16 15:18 ` H.J. Lu
2021-09-16 16:45 ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2021-09-16 17:38 ` H.J. Lu
2021-09-16 17:58 ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2021-09-16 22:11 ` H.J. Lu
2021-09-17 2:47 ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2021-09-17 2:59 ` H.J. Lu
2021-09-17 3:36 ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2021-09-17 3:42 ` H.J. Lu
2021-09-17 3:44 ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2021-09-17 3:44 ` Florian Weimer
2021-09-17 3:51 ` Siddhesh Poyarekar [this message]
2021-09-16 18:03 ` Florian Weimer
2021-09-16 22:14 ` H.J. Lu
2021-09-17 2:58 ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2021-09-17 3:46 ` Florian Weimer
2021-09-17 4:00 ` Florian Weimer
2021-09-17 4:12 ` [PATCH] ld.so: Remove DL_RO_DYN_SECTION H.J. Lu
2021-09-17 6:54 ` David Abdurachmanov
2021-09-17 9:01 ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2021-09-17 15:40 ` H.J. Lu
2021-10-14 12:36 ` [PATCH] ld.so: Handle read-only dynamic section gracefully [BZ #28340] Maciej W. Rozycki
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