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From: Siddhesh Poyarekar <siddhesh@sourceware.org>
To: Florian Weimer <fweimer@redhat.com>
Cc: "H.J. Lu" <hjl.tools@gmail.com>,
	Carlos O'Donell <carlos@redhat.com>,
	GNU C Library <libc-alpha@sourceware.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] ld.so: Handle read-only dynamic section gracefully [BZ #28340]
Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2021 09:21:30 +0530	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <0ee776ea-c389-05e3-b550-f0a435614fcd@sourceware.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87pmt7j26r.fsf@oldenburg.str.redhat.com>

On 9/17/21 9:14 AM, Florian Weimer wrote:
> * Siddhesh Poyarekar:
> 
>> On 9/17/21 8:29 AM, H.J. Lu wrote:
>>> On Thu, Sep 16, 2021 at 7:47 PM Siddhesh Poyarekar
>>> <siddhesh@sourceware.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On 9/17/21 3:41 AM, H.J. Lu wrote:
>>>>>> 2. Do we want to leave .dynamic unrelocated for read-only DYNAMIC or
>>>>>> should we instead allocate an array to write relocated addresses in
>>>>>> there, like we did for vdso?
>>>>>
>>>>> My patch removed the hack for vDSO to leave the read-only
>>>>> PT_DYNAMIC segment unrelocated.
>>>>
>>>> Presuming that your rationale for this is your response from your other
>>>> email:
>>>>
>>>>> Non-glibc consumers of
>>>>> PT_DYNAMIC segment need to handle it differently for these non-ABI
>>>>> conforming binaries.
>>>>
>>>> could you qualify this a bit more?  My reading of the spec[1] suggests
>>>> that the spec is silent on whether the .dynamic entries should be
>>>> writable, it merely says that the dynamic linker reads d_un.d_ptr and
>>>> adds the memory base address to it when referring to those addresses.
>>>> So calling them non-conforming seems wrong.
>>>>
>>> I was referring to
>>> extern ElfW(Dyn) _DYNAMIC[];
>>> On x86-64, _DYNAMIC entries are normally relocated.  But for
>>> read-only
>>> DSOs, they are unrelocated.   It isn't a problem for ld.so since it doesn't
>>> use it.
>>
>> OK, then we've traditionally had an inconsistency between the contents
>> of _DYNAMIC and l_info and this change would make that difference go
>> away.  It's still a user-visible change as far as consumers of l_info
>> (through dl_iterate_phdr) are concerned.
>>
>> Why not just allocate a writable table for read-only DSOs and put the
>> relocated entries there, pointing the l_info[...] pointer to it?  That
>> will ensure that the change is user-invisible.
> 
> l_info isn't an exported field, is it?  So this wouldn't make a
> difference.

Hmm, I thought it was but then on re-reading dl_iterate_phdr, it's only 
possible to read through _DYNAMIC via the program headers.

In that case I think H. J.'s latest patch seems fine in principle.  I 
could do a proper review if you don't see any other issues here.

Siddhesh

  reply	other threads:[~2021-09-17  3:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-09-14 19:09 Siddhesh Poyarekar
2021-09-14 19:15 ` Florian Weimer
2021-09-15  1:14   ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2021-09-15 14:35 ` H.J. Lu
2021-09-15 15:42   ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2021-09-15 16:13     ` H.J. Lu
2021-09-15 16:24       ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2021-09-15 16:34         ` H.J. Lu
2021-09-16  1:43           ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2021-09-16  2:23             ` H.J. Lu
2021-09-16  3:46               ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2021-09-16  4:26                 ` H.J. Lu
2021-09-16  4:28                   ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2021-09-16  4:30                     ` H.J. Lu
2021-09-16  4:48               ` Florian Weimer
2021-09-16  5:36                 ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2021-09-16  5:46                   ` Florian Weimer
2021-09-16  6:04                     ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2021-09-16 14:11                 ` Carlos O'Donell
2021-09-16 15:18                   ` H.J. Lu
2021-09-16 16:45                     ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2021-09-16 17:38                       ` H.J. Lu
2021-09-16 17:58                         ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2021-09-16 22:11                           ` H.J. Lu
2021-09-17  2:47                             ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2021-09-17  2:59                               ` H.J. Lu
2021-09-17  3:36                                 ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2021-09-17  3:42                                   ` H.J. Lu
2021-09-17  3:44                                     ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2021-09-17  3:44                                   ` Florian Weimer
2021-09-17  3:51                                     ` Siddhesh Poyarekar [this message]
2021-09-16 18:03                         ` Florian Weimer
2021-09-16 22:14                           ` H.J. Lu
2021-09-17  2:58                           ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2021-09-17  3:46                             ` Florian Weimer
2021-09-17  4:00                               ` Florian Weimer
2021-09-17  4:12                                 ` [PATCH] ld.so: Remove DL_RO_DYN_SECTION H.J. Lu
2021-09-17  6:54                                   ` David Abdurachmanov
2021-09-17  9:01                                   ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2021-09-17 15:40                                     ` H.J. Lu
2021-10-14 12:36                               ` [PATCH] ld.so: Handle read-only dynamic section gracefully [BZ #28340] Maciej W. Rozycki

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