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From: Xi Ruoyao <xry111@xry111.site>
To: Alejandro Colomar <alx@kernel.org>
Cc: Russ Allbery <eagle@eyrie.org>, libc-alpha@sourceware.org
Subject: Re: free(3) const void *
Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2024 02:49:42 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <0f059f2602e72f848a3f7acf27c937c7d63e2288.camel@xry111.site> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ZbP8rDGokewImlsD@debian>

On Fri, 2024-01-26 at 19:40 +0100, Alejandro Colomar wrote:
> On Sat, Jan 27, 2024 at 02:36:09AM +0800, Xi Ruoyao wrote:
> > On Fri, 2024-01-26 at 19:23 +0100, Alejandro Colomar wrote:
> > > So, after Xi's reminder, I'll reformulate my suggestion to
> > > 
> > > 	[[gnu::access(none)]]
> > > 	void free(const void *p);
> > 
> > It may defeat glibc.malloc.perturb, which will fill the freed buffer
> > with some junk bytes to detect UAF more easily.  Without the access
> > attribute the compiler will (definitely) read these junk bytes from the
> > freed buffer and hopefully make the program fail in a catastrophic way,
> > but with the access attribute the compiler may reuse the previously read
> > value stored in some registers, causing the UAF slip away.
> > 
> > And glibc.malloc.perturb is an environment variable set at runtime, so
> > we cannot do it via some #if...
> 
> Hmmm, interesting.  Then please ignore the patch I sent a moment ago.
> :)

Back on the topic, IMO you may tell others to create wrappers like

[[gnu::access(none, 1)]] static inline void
aggressive_free (const void *p)
{
  (free) ((void *)p);
}
#define free(x) aggressive_free (x)

with some texts to explain all the caveats (like `free ("string
literal");` will be incorrectly accepted, and the glibc.malloc.perturb
or similar facilities in other malloc implementations, etc) in the man
page...  But for the standard and/or the libc header it's a different
story.  Anyway if such a wrapper is adopted widely it will be easier to
raise it to WG14 and Austin.


-- 
Xi Ruoyao <xry111@xry111.site>
School of Aerospace Science and Technology, Xidian University

  reply	other threads:[~2024-01-26 18:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-01-26 13:21 Alejandro Colomar
2024-01-26 14:24 ` Arsen Arsenović
2024-01-26 15:35   ` Alejandro Colomar
2024-01-26 17:22     ` Arsen Arsenović
2024-01-26 17:55       ` Xi Ruoyao
2024-01-26 18:11         ` Alejandro Colomar
2024-01-26 20:04           ` Arsen Arsenović
2024-01-26 20:07         ` Arsen Arsenović
2024-01-26 17:40     ` Andreas Schwab
2024-01-26 19:45     ` Florian Weimer
2024-01-26 15:13 ` Andreas Schwab
2024-01-26 15:33   ` Alejandro Colomar
2024-01-26 18:09 ` Russ Allbery
2024-01-26 18:23   ` Alejandro Colomar
2024-01-26 18:36     ` Xi Ruoyao
2024-01-26 18:40       ` Alejandro Colomar
2024-01-26 18:49         ` Xi Ruoyao [this message]
2024-01-26 18:57           ` Alejandro Colomar
2024-01-26 18:40     ` Russ Allbery
2024-01-26 18:45       ` Alejandro Colomar
2024-01-26 19:41   ` Florian Weimer
2024-01-26 18:39 ` [PATCH] Use [[gnu::access(none)]] on free(3) Alejandro Colomar
2024-01-26 18:41   ` Alejandro Colomar
2024-01-26 21:23     ` Paul Eggert
2024-01-26 23:19       ` Alejandro Colomar
2024-01-27 13:21       ` Cristian Rodríguez
2024-02-13 15:19         ` Gabriel Ravier
2024-02-13 15:28           ` Alejandro Colomar
2024-01-26 21:11 ` free(3) const void * DJ Delorie
2024-01-26 21:30   ` Andreas Schwab
2024-01-26 21:47     ` DJ Delorie
2024-01-26 22:07       ` Andreas Schwab
2024-01-26 23:25       ` Alejandro Colomar

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