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From: Zach van Rijn <me@zv.io>
To: rms@gnu.org, libc-alpha@sourceware.org
Cc: Alexandre Oliva <aoliva@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [rain1@airmail.cc] Delete abortion joke
Date: Tue, 01 May 2018 14:45:00 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1525185923.2440.7.camel@zv.io> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <E1fDLZU-00076y-KO@fencepost.gnu.org>

On Mon, 2018-04-30 at 23:03 -0400, Richard Stallman wrote:
> [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider    ]]]
> [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies,     ]]]
> [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]]
> 
> The point of this joke is even more important now than it was when I
> first wrote it.  Please do not remove it.
> 
> GNU is not a purely technical project, so the fact that this is
> not strictly and grimly technical is not a reason to remove this.
> 
> Please ack.
> 

It would be unprofessional of me to let you defend a joke about a topic
so deeply personal to some, in of all places technical documentation for
a C library, after (like me) having been made aware of its presence.

Such a joke has little to do with the merits (pro- or con-) of the issue
you care about, and presents unnecessary confusion to such a broad and
diverse community. Your personal website would be an excellent venue to
express your views, but in this case it's not comedy, nor is it comity.

And quite frankly, it smacks of the FreeBSD Code of Conduct [1] from a
different angle. It isn't political correctness to wish it removed.

ZV

[1]: https://www.freebsd.org/internal/code-of-conduct.html

  parent reply	other threads:[~2018-05-01 14:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 269+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <orin883lcl.fsf@lxoliva.fsfla.org>
2018-05-01  3:03 ` Richard Stallman
2018-05-01 13:54   ` Carlos O'Donell
2018-05-02  0:30     ` Alexandre Oliva
2018-05-02  3:28       ` Carlos O'Donell
2018-05-02  6:37         ` Florian Weimer
2018-05-03  3:34           ` ISO standards Richard Stallman
2018-05-03  3:34           ` [rain1@airmail.cc] Delete abortion joke Richard Stallman
2018-05-02 19:08         ` Zack Weinberg
2018-05-03  0:28           ` Alexandre Oliva
2018-05-03  2:33             ` Carlos O'Donell
2018-05-03  6:08               ` Alexandre Oliva
2018-05-05 15:44                 ` Federico Leva (Nemo)
2018-05-04  4:22               ` [rain1@airmail.cc] " Richard Stallman
2018-05-07  1:48                 ` Carlos O'Donell
2018-05-03  2:49           ` Carlos O'Donell
2018-05-03  0:55         ` Alexandre Oliva
2018-05-05 11:45         ` @cartouche (was: [rain1@airmail.cc] Delete abortion joke) Dmitry V. Levin
2018-05-06  3:05           ` @cartouche Carlos O'Donell
2018-05-02  3:11     ` [rain1@airmail.cc] Delete abortion joke Richard Stallman
2018-05-02  6:26       ` Ondřej Bílka
2018-05-02  6:36         ` Rical Jasan
2018-05-02  7:00         ` Javier Serrano Polo
2018-05-02  7:16           ` Rical Jasan
2018-05-03  3:34           ` Richard Stallman
2018-05-03  3:34         ` [rain1@airmail.cc] " Richard Stallman
2018-05-01 14:18   ` Florian Weimer
2018-05-02  3:09     ` Richard Stallman
2018-05-03 10:48       ` Florian Weimer
2018-05-01 14:45   ` Zach van Rijn [this message]
2018-05-02  3:08     ` Richard Stallman
     [not found]   ` <2e49b0b7f6ba587e0a5d08e701212fd4@airmail.cc>
2018-05-01 14:53     ` rain1
2018-05-01 15:40   ` Rich Felker
2018-05-01 16:12   ` Zack Weinberg
2018-05-02  3:11     ` Richard Stallman
2018-05-02 19:03       ` Zack Weinberg
2018-05-04  4:18         ` Richard Stallman
2018-05-02 19:56       ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2018-05-04  4:20         ` Richard Stallman
2018-05-04  6:52           ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2018-05-04 10:02             ` Florian Weimer
2018-05-04 10:18               ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2018-05-07  2:01             ` Richard Stallman
2018-05-07  3:09               ` Carlos O'Donell
2018-05-07  9:29               ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2018-05-07 20:21               ` Torvald Riegel
2018-05-07 20:42                 ` Federico Leva (Nemo)
2018-05-07 21:26                   ` Torvald Riegel
2018-05-03  4:36       ` Carlos O'Donell
2018-05-03  7:01         ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2018-05-03 11:07           ` Adhemerval Zanella
2018-05-07 23:44             ` Rafal Luzynski
2018-05-08  1:00               ` Carlos O'Donell
2018-05-03 13:53           ` Jeff Law
2018-05-03 12:28         ` Florian Weimer
2018-05-03 20:58           ` Alexandre Oliva
2018-05-03 23:59             ` Zach van Rijn
2018-05-05  4:49               ` Alexandre Oliva
2018-05-04  1:09             ` Zack Weinberg
2018-05-05  4:18               ` Alexandre Oliva
2018-05-06 19:01                 ` Zack Weinberg
2018-05-06 19:17                   ` Zack Weinberg
2018-05-06 20:19                   ` Alexandre Oliva
2018-05-06 22:56                     ` Zack Weinberg
2018-05-07  0:07                       ` Alexandre Oliva
2018-05-07  0:50                         ` Carlos O'Donell
2018-05-07  1:07                           ` Alexandre Oliva
2018-05-07  2:03                             ` Carlos O'Donell
2018-05-07  4:41                               ` Alexandre Oliva
2018-05-07  6:13                                 ` DJ Delorie
2018-05-07 16:46                                   ` Alexandre Oliva
2018-05-07 18:30                                     ` DJ Delorie
2018-05-07 18:36                                       ` Florian Weimer
2018-05-07 18:41                                         ` Jeff Law
2018-05-07 19:00                                           ` Adhemerval Zanella
2018-05-07 19:28                                             ` Torvald Riegel
2018-05-07 22:09                                       ` Alexandre Oliva
2018-05-07 20:48                                     ` Carlos O'Donell
2018-05-08  4:45                                       ` Alexandre Oliva
2018-05-08  8:27                                         ` Torvald Riegel
2018-05-08 12:08                                         ` Carlos O'Donell
2018-05-08 10:06                                       ` Andreas Schwab
2018-05-08 10:36                                         ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2018-05-08 11:36                                           ` Andreas Schwab
2018-05-08 12:03                                             ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2018-05-08 12:09                                               ` Andreas Schwab
2018-05-08 13:08                                                 ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2018-05-08 14:03                                                   ` Andreas Schwab
2018-05-08 14:17                                                     ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2018-05-08 14:26                                                       ` Andreas Schwab
2018-05-08 14:36                                                         ` Carlos O'Donell
2018-05-08 15:01                                                         ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2018-05-08 16:32                                                           ` Alexandre Oliva
2018-05-08 18:58                                                             ` Torvald Riegel
2018-05-08 14:21                                                     ` Carlos O'Donell
2018-05-08 14:27                                                       ` Andreas Schwab
2018-05-08 14:36                                                         ` Carlos O'Donell
2018-05-08 12:18                                             ` commit reversion without review (was: [rain1@airmail.cc] Delete abortion joke) Dmitry V. Levin
2018-05-08 16:22                                               ` commit reversion without review Alexandre Oliva
2018-05-10  1:48                                                 ` Dmitry V. Levin
2018-05-10  5:21                                                   ` Alexandre Oliva
2018-05-10  5:53                                                     ` Carlos O'Donell
2018-05-08 12:32                                         ` [rain1@airmail.cc] Delete abortion joke Carlos O'Donell
2018-05-08 12:45                                           ` Andreas Schwab
2018-05-08 12:57                                             ` Carlos O'Donell
2018-05-08 14:37                                             ` Carlos O'Donell
2018-05-08 16:36                                           ` Alexandre Oliva
2018-05-08 19:08                                             ` Torvald Riegel
2018-05-08 19:28                                               ` Alexandre Oliva
2018-05-08 20:21                                                 ` Torvald Riegel
2018-05-09  2:26                                                   ` Alexandre Oliva
2018-05-09 10:32                                                     ` Torvald Riegel
2018-05-08 21:47                                                 ` Maurizio Manfredini
2018-05-07 13:07                                 ` [PATCH] Revert Abortion joke removal Carlos O'Donell
2018-05-07 21:19                                   ` [PATCH] Revert Abort " Alexandre Oliva
2018-05-07 21:41                                     ` DJ Delorie
2018-05-08  0:05                                       ` Alexandre Oliva
2018-05-08  4:46                                       ` Javiera Serrano Polo
2018-05-07 22:09                                   ` [PATCH] Revert Abortion " Alexandre Oliva
2018-05-07 22:39                                     ` DJ Delorie
2018-05-07 23:45                                       ` Alexandre Oliva
2018-05-07 23:51                                         ` Jonathan Nieder
2018-05-08  0:46                                           ` Carlos O'Donell
2018-05-08  1:08                                           ` Alexandre Oliva
2018-05-08  5:04                                             ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2018-05-08 15:20                                               ` Alexandre Oliva
2018-05-08 16:25                                                 ` Torvald Riegel
2018-05-08 17:51                                                   ` Alexandre Oliva
2018-05-08 17:54                                                     ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2018-05-08 18:25                                                       ` Zack Weinberg
2018-05-08 19:34                                                         ` Alexandre Oliva
2018-05-08 19:54                                                           ` Javiera Serrano Polo
2018-05-08 20:08                                                             ` Javiera Serrano Polo
2018-05-09  2:40                                                             ` Alexandre Oliva
2018-05-08 19:57                                                           ` Zack Weinberg
2018-05-09  1:16                                                             ` Alexandre Oliva
2018-05-10  3:52                                                               ` Carlos O'Donell
2018-05-10  4:41                                                                 ` Alexandre Oliva
2018-05-10  5:55                                                                   ` Carlos O'Donell
2018-05-10  6:49                                                                     ` Alexandre Oliva
2018-05-08 20:38                                                           ` Torvald Riegel
2018-05-08 18:32                                                       ` Alexandre Oliva
2018-05-08 20:34                                                     ` Torvald Riegel
2018-05-08 17:19                                                 ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2018-05-08 18:15                                                   ` Alexandre Oliva
2018-05-08 20:09                                                     ` Torvald Riegel
2018-05-09  3:04                                                       ` Alexandre Oliva
2018-05-09 10:52                                                         ` Torvald Riegel
2018-05-09 17:12                                                           ` Alexandre Oliva
2018-05-09  6:25                                                     ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2018-05-09 17:12                                                       ` Alexandre Oliva
2018-05-09 17:46                                                         ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2018-05-09 23:51                                                           ` Alexandre Oliva
2018-05-10  2:32                                                             ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2018-05-10  4:53                                                               ` Alexandre Oliva
2018-05-08 10:10                                           ` Andreas Schwab
2018-05-08 10:28                                             ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2018-05-08 16:28                                               ` Alexandre Oliva
2018-05-08 17:33                                                 ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2018-05-08 18:38                                                   ` Alexandre Oliva
2018-05-08 19:28                                                 ` Torvald Riegel
2018-05-09 18:22                                                 ` Jeff Law
2018-05-10  6:13                                                   ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2018-05-10 11:06                                                   ` Chester Gregg
2018-05-08  8:13                                         ` Torvald Riegel
2018-05-08  2:04                                     ` Carlos O'Donell
2018-05-08  5:12                                       ` Alexandre Oliva
2018-05-08  5:18                                         ` Matt Turner
2018-05-08 15:19                                           ` Alexandre Oliva
2018-05-08  8:44                                         ` Torvald Riegel
2018-05-07  2:03                     ` [rain1@airmail.cc] Delete abortion joke Richard Stallman
2018-05-08 15:55                       ` Joseph Myers
2018-05-09 19:56                         ` Rafal Luzynski
2018-05-07  6:55                   ` Paul Eggert
2018-05-07 19:18                     ` Torvald Riegel
2018-05-07 19:57                     ` Carlos O'Donell
2018-05-06  3:17               ` Richard Stallman
2018-05-06 18:00                 ` Zack Weinberg
2018-05-06 18:04                   ` Javiera Serrano Polo
2018-05-06 18:14                     ` Carlos O'Donell
2018-05-06 18:29                       ` Javiera Serrano Polo
2018-05-06 19:20                     ` Florian Weimer
2018-05-07  2:03                     ` Richard Stallman
2018-05-07 19:29                       ` Javiera Serrano Polo
2018-05-07 23:51                         ` Alexandre Oliva
2018-05-07 23:56                           ` Zach van Rijn
2018-05-08  0:11                           ` Lets add a joke to the manual Mark Wielaard
2018-05-08  1:28                             ` Alexandre Oliva
2018-05-08  1:41                               ` Carlos O'Donell
2018-05-08  5:13                                 ` Alexandre Oliva
2018-05-08  9:07                               ` Torvald Riegel
2018-05-08  3:28                           ` Delete abortion joke Siddhesh Poyarekar
2018-05-08  4:46                           ` Javiera Serrano Polo
2018-05-11 16:12                             ` [PATCH] manual: Improve quality of comic content in abort [BZ #23168] Javiera Serrano Polo
2018-05-11 17:20                               ` Carlos O'Donell
2018-05-11 17:46                                 ` Javiera Serrano Polo
2018-05-11 20:21                                   ` Javiera Serrano Polo
2018-05-11 21:46                                   ` Richard Stallman
     [not found]                       ` <1525713151.19750.28.camel@jasp.net>
2018-05-08  1:55                         ` Delete abortion joke Richard Stallman
2018-05-07  2:03                   ` [rain1@airmail.cc] " Richard Stallman
2018-05-07  2:22                     ` Carlos O'Donell
2018-05-07  2:04               ` Richard Stallman
2018-05-04  2:56             ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2018-05-04 16:32               ` Rich Felker
2018-05-04 16:40                 ` Javiera Serrano Polo
2018-05-05  4:07                 ` [rain1@airmail.cc] " Richard Stallman
2018-05-05  4:06               ` Alexandre Oliva
2018-05-05  7:40                 ` Javiera Serrano Polo
2018-05-05 12:19                 ` [rain1@airmail.cc] " Siddhesh Poyarekar
2018-05-06  3:16                   ` Richard Stallman
2018-05-06  5:03                   ` Alexandre Oliva
2018-05-06  3:17               ` Richard Stallman
2018-05-07  7:45                 ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2018-05-08  1:53                   ` Richard Stallman
2018-05-07 20:56             ` Torvald Riegel
2018-05-07 21:29               ` Federico Leva (Nemo)
2018-05-07 23:25               ` Alexandre Oliva
2018-05-08  9:26                 ` Torvald Riegel
2018-05-08 16:17                   ` Alexandre Oliva
2018-05-08 17:40                     ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2018-05-08 18:55                       ` Alexandre Oliva
2018-05-09  5:51                         ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2018-05-09 17:12                           ` Alexandre Oliva
2018-05-09 17:50                             ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2018-05-09 23:09                               ` Alexandre Oliva
2018-05-10  0:28                                 ` DJ Delorie
2018-05-10  5:03                                   ` Alexandre Oliva
2018-05-10  2:57                                 ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2018-05-10 11:43                                 ` Chester Gregg
2018-05-08 20:41                     ` Torvald Riegel
2018-05-09  2:38                       ` Alexandre Oliva
2018-05-09  9:28                         ` Torvald Riegel
2018-05-09 17:12                           ` Alexandre Oliva
2018-05-07 22:08             ` William Pitcock
2018-05-08  1:56               ` gag rule joke Richard Stallman
2018-05-08  3:26                 ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2018-05-09  3:39                   ` Richard Stallman
2018-05-09  5:29                     ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2018-05-09  8:42                     ` Torvald Riegel
2018-05-09  9:00                       ` Chester Gregg
2018-05-09 23:58                         ` Richard Stallman
2018-05-09 11:06                       ` Javiera Serrano Polo
2018-05-09 12:09                         ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2018-05-09 13:55                           ` Javiera Serrano Polo
2018-05-09 14:48                             ` Torvald Riegel
2018-05-09 23:57                               ` Alexandre Oliva
2018-05-10 11:33                                 ` Torvald Riegel
2018-05-11  2:34                                   ` Javiera Serrano Polo
2018-05-11  1:32                   ` Richard Stallman
2018-05-11  1:58                     ` Jonathan Nieder
2018-05-11  3:58                     ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2018-05-08  9:43                 ` Torvald Riegel
2018-05-09  3:34                   ` Richard Stallman
2018-05-09  8:34                     ` Torvald Riegel
2018-05-09 10:59                       ` Javiera Serrano Polo
2018-05-09 12:05                         ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2018-05-09 12:34                         ` Torvald Riegel
2018-05-04  4:20           ` [rain1@airmail.cc] Delete abortion joke Richard Stallman
2018-05-04  9:25             ` Florian Weimer
2018-05-05  4:05               ` Richard Stallman
2018-05-08 10:55         ` Christian Brauner
     [not found]   ` <CAAKybw_h991qCFcLo1orG41gUOq3K-nur4mpn0ZO0Q832OhsoQ@mail.gmail.com>
2018-05-01 15:52     ` Ryan S. Arnold
2018-05-02  3:07     ` Richard Stallman
2018-05-03 15:00   ` DJ Delorie
2018-05-03 17:05     ` Javier Serrano Polo
2018-05-05  4:02       ` Richard Stallman
2018-05-05  4:03     ` [rain1@airmail.cc] " Richard Stallman
2018-05-07 19:53       ` Torvald Riegel
2018-05-07 21:32   ` William Pitcock
2018-05-07 20:10 Patsy Franklin

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