From: Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>
To: libc-alpha@sourceware.org
Cc: Paul Eggert <eggert@cs.ucla.edu>,
Albert ARIBAUD <albert.aribaud@3adev.fr>
Subject: Re: Second draft of the Y2038 design document
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 2016 23:21:00 -0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1683528.yWvM1WbPg0@wuerfel> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <56AA8465.5040803@cs.ucla.edu>
On Thursday 28 January 2016 13:13:09 Paul Eggert wrote:
> Some typos: "1901-12-13 19:55:13 UTC" should be "1901-12-13 20:45:52
> UTC". "sentive" should be "sensitive". "20338" should be "2038". "Thins"
> should be "This".
>
> I don't see why functions like 'time' and 'gettimeofday' should be
> allowed to misbehave on 64-bit hosts after 2038. They should just work.
> Glibc should not worry about 64-bit kernels without 64-bit time support.
> Any such kernels should just get fixed before 2038 rolls around.
>
> Why are struct rusage, getrusage, etc. Y2038-sensitive? They hold
> intervals, not absolute times.
It can theoretically still overflow, though not at the same time:
If you have a large NUMA system with thousands of CPUs and an HPC
workload running on all of them for a couple of months at a time,
the field will overflow.
getrusage is also an example of a class of interfaces that need to
be addressed in one way or another because they contain a time_t
member in a structure, so any user space program that sees the
current definition of struct rusage but uses a 64-bit time_t will
disagree on the layout with the old kernel system call. Other
interfaces in this class are clock_getres, pselect, ppoll,
io_getevents, recvmmsg, semtimedop, rt_sigtimedwait,
sched_rr_get_interval, and sysinfo, along with many ioctl commands.
There is no overflow in them, but we have to either add a
replacement interface, or redefine the API to pass a 'long' instead
of 'time_t' to keep binary compatibility.
My current patch set for the kernel syscalls uses a structure
with all 64-bit members, so we can share the implementation between
the new 32-bit system call in compat mode with the existing native
64-bit system call. I'm not particularly attached to that solution,
it's just one of multiple ways to do this and I had to pick one.
Arnd
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2016-01-28 23:21 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2016-01-28 19:41 Albert ARIBAUD
2016-01-28 21:13 ` Paul Eggert
2016-01-28 23:21 ` Arnd Bergmann [this message]
2016-01-29 0:12 ` Paul Eggert
2016-01-29 8:58 ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-03-20 8:07 ` Albert ARIBAUD
2016-03-21 12:15 ` Albert ARIBAUD
2016-03-21 13:07 ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-03-21 18:19 ` Paul Eggert
2016-03-25 12:24 ` Albert ARIBAUD
2016-01-28 21:14 ` Joseph Myers
2016-01-28 23:30 ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-01-28 23:36 ` Joseph Myers
2016-01-28 23:55 ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-01-29 15:40 ` Joseph Myers
2016-01-29 16:27 ` Arnd Bergmann
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