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From: Maxim Kuvyrkov <maxim.kuvyrkov@linaro.org>
To: Adhemerval Zanella <adhemerval.zanella@linaro.org>
Cc: libc-alpha@sourceware.org
Subject: Re: [libc/string] State of PAGE_COPY_FWD / PAGE_COPY_THRESHOLD
Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2016 07:39:00 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <193512EC-DC6C-4BDF-8138-1C1F54B30A12@linaro.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <c05f0be4-6e4b-80cd-ad74-edc16a443b14@linaro.org>

> On Nov 1, 2016, at 5:59 PM, Adhemerval Zanella <adhemerval.zanella@linaro.org> wrote:
> 
...
> $ cat sysdeps/x86/pagecopy.h
> 
> #define PAGE_SIZE           4096
> #define PAGE_COPY_THRESHOLD PAGE_SIZE
> 
> #define PAGE_COPY_FWD(dstp, srcp, nbytes_left, nbytes)  /* Implement it */
> 
> It should work on any other architecture as well.  Now the question
> is whether this actually does make sense for Linux.  Hurd/mach provided
> a syscall (?) to actually copy the pages (vm_copy) which seems to apply
> some tricks to avoid full copy pages. By 'linux zero page sharing' are 
> you referring to KSM (Kernel Samepage Merging)? 
> 
> If so, on a system without a provided kernel interface to work directed 
> with underlying memory mapping (such as for mach), mem{cpy,set} will 
> actually need to touch the pages and it will be up to kernel page fault 
> mechanism to actually handle it (by identifying common pages and adjusting
> vma mapping accordingly). And AFAIK this are only enabled on KSM if you 
> actually madavise the page explicit. So I am not grasping the need to
> actually implement page copying on Linux.

Linux kernel has a reserved page filled with zeroes, so it there /were/ a syscall to tell kernel to map N consecutive pages starting at address PTR to that zero page, we could use that in GLIBC for really big memset(0).

A quick investigation shows that there is no such syscall provided by the Linux kernel.  Doesn't mean we can't ask for / implement one.

--
Maxim Kuvyrkov
www.linaro.org


  reply	other threads:[~2016-11-10  7:39 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-11-01  9:28 Maxim Kuvyrkov
2016-11-01 13:59 ` Adhemerval Zanella
2016-11-10  7:39   ` Maxim Kuvyrkov [this message]
2016-11-10  7:48     ` Andrew Pinski
2016-11-10  7:52       ` Maxim Kuvyrkov
2016-11-10  8:01         ` Andrew Pinski
2016-11-10  8:05           ` Andrew Pinski
2016-11-10  8:25             ` Florian Weimer
2016-11-10  8:34               ` Andrew Pinski
2016-11-10  8:55                 ` Andrew Pinski
2016-11-10  9:25                   ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2016-11-10  9:29                     ` Florian Weimer
2016-11-10  9:34                       ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2016-11-30 11:18                   ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2016-11-10  8:26     ` Florian Weimer
2016-11-10  8:27 ` Florian Weimer

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