From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from us-smtp-delivery-124.mimecast.com (us-smtp-delivery-124.mimecast.com [216.205.24.124]) by sourceware.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DE5938515FD for ; Mon, 5 Jul 2021 05:53:37 +0000 (GMT) DMARC-Filter: OpenDMARC Filter v1.4.1 sourceware.org 7DE5938515FD Received: from mail-qk1-f200.google.com (mail-qk1-f200.google.com [209.85.222.200]) (Using TLS) by relay.mimecast.com with ESMTP id us-mta-247-Djqj2M-cM9G4rF_QaiSFlw-1; Mon, 05 Jul 2021 01:53:36 -0400 X-MC-Unique: Djqj2M-cM9G4rF_QaiSFlw-1 Received: by mail-qk1-f200.google.com with SMTP id a2-20020a05620a0662b02903ad3598ec02so13300237qkh.17 for ; Sun, 04 Jul 2021 22:53:36 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:subject:to:cc:references:from:organization :message-id:date:user-agent:mime-version:in-reply-to :content-language:content-transfer-encoding; bh=mtLUmFGIym6Bre13Nf9ZiVAqlBlOIsshGrG9VfnhD0M=; b=akwY5W52q2PTQ7ps7E53QlM99r8pXLPsQb7yk6ZS30zRsMB9a/b83+MsGmHNOtnhsV zSx53l6q8PRRxCILAk834ge7CylAhjofe/Ahc7TbMPArcsDH7mahjYCcWyYAo+hZ69sF wn3t9+CjwSm1OF/wExiZ6IsC59lg+yY54wN/rVJikw4w6eYtJG6Ike/VPcGGBeu47LTc B434YmzpD5G2Amn4HzyOOFOGehyEAa8g3/ILdfxuTWS9tl0c4gqgB+gG4+1Pb5BM4ebB b9c2/c/H8xZdL5/QzLc8DRMZdknlgldMFKHKc0JRZcYlPBnoaIVvg+auZAU2BHWHlGRS Q4EQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM533nVF+QZa2FpJsWt77+8OOSytoBy5vrzo7rHIUel1dPK/K4GfBP qOu0W/1/xWqq9R35zOFq/WFKgXw6Ib58awnL8cDPQGTMDth2gU1GJ7/xItjrvzk2+Vjh1uW66wO l3c7NMw7Lm8UXp/2IKGMJthixT3/IPtMPDPFlTbziS7Skrr1ggSWaFs89+lm5rjJ316j4Yg== X-Received: by 2002:a05:620a:1026:: with SMTP id a6mr11997360qkk.331.1625464415382; Sun, 04 Jul 2021 22:53:35 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJxloGD5bROPFAdx0ESvviHRVM+Xjf6uyRQK6NPtZsz5m1eyY2cxfiL2mO2yxd05oAbB0cTjeA== X-Received: by 2002:a05:620a:1026:: with SMTP id a6mr11997341qkk.331.1625464415183; Sun, 04 Jul 2021 22:53:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.16] (198-84-214-74.cpe.teksavvy.com. [198.84.214.74]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id t7sm2884664qkm.23.2021.07.04.22.53.34 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Sun, 04 Jul 2021 22:53:34 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: Seeking input from developers: glibc copyright assignment policy. To: Bruno Haible Cc: Paul Eggert , DJ Delorie , "Dmitry V. Levin" , libc-alpha@sourceware.org References: <1b2ac4c8-0bbf-b7a7-8b05-03d5a71d46f4@cs.ucla.edu> <17863403.P4NDpsXYhb@omega> From: Carlos O'Donell Organization: Red Hat Message-ID: <1bbfcc06-5df4-d3bf-e4c6-2be13da9eac5@redhat.com> Date: Mon, 5 Jul 2021 01:53:33 -0400 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.11.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <17863403.P4NDpsXYhb@omega> X-Mimecast-Spam-Score: 0 X-Mimecast-Originator: redhat.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.5 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH, DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID, DKIM_VALID_AU, DKIM_VALID_EF, NICE_REPLY_A, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H4, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL, SPF_HELO_NONE, SPF_NONE, TXREP autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on server2.sourceware.org X-BeenThere: libc-alpha@sourceware.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Libc-alpha mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Jul 2021 05:53:38 -0000 On 7/2/21 11:24 PM, Bruno Haible wrote: > Carlos O'Donell wrote: >> gnulib already accepts such code. >> >> gnulib has been including non-FSF copyrighted material in various >> modules (that include the files below) for a long time. > > Yes. But the article "Our need for copyright papers has not gone away" > by Richard Stallman explains, among other things, that it makes a big > difference whether a small part or a large part of the package is not > covered by copyright assignments. Has that article been published publicly? > In the case of Gnulib so far, it's less than 2% of the code. That's > a small part of Gnulib. Is that "small" from a legal perspective? It's still non-FSF copyrighted code. > It would be much, much worse if a *large* part of Gnulib was not > covered by copyright assignments. Do you see this changing suddenly? > Similarly, Bradley Kuhn [1] reminded to think about the *long term* mix > of copyright holders. Absolutely. We should keep an eye on that. -- Cheers, Carlos.