From: Adhemerval Zanella Netto <adhemerval.zanella@linaro.org>
To: "Andreas K. Huettel" <dilfridge@gentoo.org>,
libc-alpha@sourceware.org, floppym@gentoo.org
Subject: Re: CONFIG_COMPAT_32BIT_TIME in the kernel, x86 ABI on x86-64
Date: Sun, 23 Jul 2023 15:46:20 -0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1e8a84bf-4b7f-67bc-ba8d-6a434afb2b8c@linaro.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <8005565.6fTUFtlzNn@pinacolada>
On 23/07/23 12:16, Andreas K. Huettel wrote:
> Dear all,
>
> one of my Gentoo colleagues (Mike Gilbert, floppym) found this, so I'm forwarding
> his notes:
>
> ===
> Using utimensat as an example, the kernel interface is as follows:
>
> When CONFIG_COMPAT_32BIT_TIME is enabled, the kernel provides both the legact
> 32-bit interface (utimensat) and the 64-bit interface (utimensat_time64).
> When CONFIG_COMPAT_32BIT_TIME is disabled, only the 64-bit interface
> (utimensat_time64) is provided. utimensat gives ENOSYS.
>
> Behavior of utimensat64 libc function before b286eca5d4117b3e17c939e3df56e132ae623df1:
>
> 1. Try utimensat_time64
> 2. If ENOSYS, fall back to utimensat if the arguments are small enough to fit in 32-bits
>
> Behavior of utimensat64 libc function after b286eca5d4117b3e17c939e3df56e132ae623df1:
>
> 1. If the arguments are small enough to fit in 32-bits, use utimensat
> 2. If the arguments are too large, use utimensat_time64
>
> The new behavior fails when CONFIG_COMPAT_32BIT_TIME is disabled, since utimensat is
> unavailable.
>
> Several other glibc functions were updated with similar behavior changes.
> ===
>
> What's to do?
It has been already discussed [1], and not only glibc but musl creator Rich
agreed [2] that this option is a gratuitous userspace API/ABI stability policy
breakage that Linux (at least Linus and some other maintainers) is adamant to
not introduce.
At least for glibc we have the option to configure with a minimum 5.1 kernel
(--enable-kernel=5.1) which should disable the 32 bit syscall fallback. This
should work with CONFIG_COMPAT_32BIT_TIME, although I have not actually
test it.
[1] https://sourceware.org/pipermail/libc-alpha/2022-November/143330.html
[2] https://sourceware.org/pipermail/libc-alpha/2022-November/143349.html
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2023-07-23 18:46 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 6+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2023-07-23 15:16 Andreas K. Huettel
2023-07-23 15:21 ` Andreas K. Huettel
2023-07-23 18:46 ` Adhemerval Zanella Netto [this message]
2023-07-24 12:55 ` Carlos O'Donell
2023-07-24 13:16 ` Andreas Schwab
2023-07-24 13:22 ` Adhemerval Zanella Netto
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