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From: Albert ARIBAUD <albert.aribaud@3adev.fr>
To: Florian Weimer <fweimer@redhat.com>
Cc: libc-alpha@sourceware.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] Y2038: make __tz_convert compatible with 64-bit-time
Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2018 10:21:00 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180613122050.511c16e1@athena> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <290446d5-cbe0-c49d-85bf-3416118786d5@redhat.com>

Hi Florian,

On Wed, 13 Jun 2018 11:40:04 +0200, Florian Weimer <fweimer@redhat.com>
wrote :

> On 06/13/2018 11:36 AM, Albert ARIBAUD wrote:
> > Hi Florian,
> > 
> > On Wed, 13 Jun 2018 11:10:09 +0200, Florian Weimer <fweimer@redhat.com>
> > wrote :
> >   
> >> On 06/13/2018 09:00 AM, Albert ARIBAUD (3ADEV) wrote:  
>  [...]  
> >>
> >> Functions in the private namespace should be exported as GLIBC_PRIVATE.
> >> Except __gmtime64_r, these functions have unwanted side effects and
> >> cannot really be called from other parts of glibc anyway.  
> > 
> > They're going to be implementations of APIs called from user source code
> > if/when it defines _TIME_BITS equal to 64 (that'll be the last patch in
> > the whole series), so I don't understand how they could be considered
> > GLIBC_PRIVATE.  
> 
> Why do they use the __ prefix?  We generally do not do that.

I believe it stemmed from the fact that source code should not spell
these functions by their explicit name -- that name is to be used by
glibc only. User source code should keep using the historical names
(here, "gmtime_r"); if it has defined _TIME_BITS equal to 64, then the
glibc public headers will alias (or barring that, #define) gmtime_r to
__gmtime64_r (the 64-bit-time implementation); otherwise, "gmtime_r"
will be used as-is (the 32-bit-time implementation).

So to make sure the symbols were considered to not be for (direct)
public use, they have to start with an underscore.

> > As for the side effects, which ones are you thinking of? The ones I am
> > aware of are those already present in the 32-bit-time versions and are
> > "regrettable but established behavior".  
> 
> The side effects simply mean that we cannot call this functions as an 
> internal implementation detail of another function, so there should be 
> no reason for an export in the private namespace (with the __prefix and 
> GLIBC_PRIVATE).

Actually another function can call these functions -- the 32-bit-time
wrappers do that exactly. I must be missing your point.

> Thanks,
> Florian

Cordialement,
Albert ARIBAUD
3ADEV

  reply	other threads:[~2018-06-13 10:21 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-06-13  7:00 [PATCH 0/2] Y2038 support batch 1 - __time64_t and __tz_convert Albert ARIBAUD (3ADEV)
2018-06-13  7:00 ` [PATCH 1/2] Y2038: add type __time64_t Albert ARIBAUD (3ADEV)
2018-06-13  8:38   ` Paul Eggert
2018-06-13 12:36     ` Albert ARIBAUD
2018-06-13 14:13   ` Joseph Myers
2018-06-13 16:19     ` Albert ARIBAUD
2018-06-13 16:35       ` Paul Eggert
2018-06-13 16:39         ` Joseph Myers
2018-06-13 18:46           ` Paul Eggert
2018-06-13  7:00 ` [PATCH 2/2] Y2038: make __tz_convert compatible with 64-bit-time Albert ARIBAUD (3ADEV)
2018-06-13  9:10   ` Florian Weimer
2018-06-13  9:37     ` Albert ARIBAUD
2018-06-13  9:40       ` Florian Weimer
2018-06-13 10:21         ` Albert ARIBAUD [this message]
2018-06-13 10:55           ` Albert ARIBAUD
2018-06-13 13:08           ` Florian Weimer
2018-06-13 14:29             ` Joseph Myers
2018-06-13 14:24         ` Joseph Myers
2018-06-18 13:34           ` Florian Weimer
2018-06-13  9:11   ` Paul Eggert
2018-06-13  9:14     ` Florian Weimer
2018-06-13  9:30       ` Albert ARIBAUD
2018-06-13 14:22     ` Joseph Myers
2018-06-13 14:18   ` Joseph Myers
2018-06-13  7:59 ` [PATCH 0/2] Y2038 support batch 1 - __time64_t and __tz_convert Albert ARIBAUD
2018-06-13 14:08   ` Joseph Myers
2018-06-13 15:38     ` Albert ARIBAUD

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