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From: Szabolcs Nagy <szabolcs.nagy@arm.com>
To: DJ Delorie <dj@redhat.com>
Cc: libc-alpha@sourceware.org
Subject: Re: tunables vs osxsave vs checkpointing vs _dl_runtime_resolve
Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2021 16:43:35 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20210319164334.GA3876@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <xn8s6knzxw.fsf@rhel8.vm>

The 03/18/2021 13:18, DJ Delorie via Libc-alpha wrote:
> 
> In response to this customer bug...
> 
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1937515
> 
> I spent some time digging into this code, and was able to reproduce it
> using criu (checkpoint/restore in userspace).  In a nutshell: if you
> create a task on a machine WITH xsave (or xsavec), and migrate it
> (somehow) to a machine WITHOUT xsave (or xsavec), any further DSO
> calls will fail because we've already chosen an xsave/xsavec resolver.
> 
> This, of course, is guaranteed to fail, and cannot be fixed.  With
> criu I had to override the checks with a command line option just to
> prove my point.
> 
> However, if you *know* you might do this, there should be a way to use
> tunables to avoid xsave/xsavec - with the usual caveats about "YMMV" -
> so that a process could be migrated across such CPUs without fault.
> 
> Our tunables almost provide this.

so are we supposed to handle migrations to machines with
different arch extensions?

cpu_features based decisions can break across different
machines and there is no reliable (future proof) way to
request baseline arch features.

on aarch64 the closest is glibc.cpu.name=generic tunable
but it only affects the cpuid (which fixes most libc
ifunc selection logic, but e.g. not if the cpu has bti
or not, there is glibc.cpu.hwcap_mask but not hacap2 mask
so bti cannot be turned off in glibc if the hw has it)

  parent reply	other threads:[~2021-03-19 16:43 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-03-18 17:18 DJ Delorie
2021-03-18 17:29 ` H.J. Lu
2021-03-18 17:45   ` DJ Delorie
2021-03-18 20:39     ` H.J. Lu
2021-03-19  3:40       ` DJ Delorie
2021-03-19  4:16         ` H.J. Lu
2021-03-19  4:35           ` DJ Delorie
2021-03-18 17:32 ` Florian Weimer
2021-03-18 17:47   ` DJ Delorie
2021-03-18 17:57     ` Florian Weimer
2021-03-18 18:19       ` DJ Delorie
2021-03-19 16:43 ` Szabolcs Nagy [this message]
2021-03-19 21:12   ` DJ Delorie

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