From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from 1wt.eu (wtarreau.pck.nerim.net [62.212.114.60]) by sourceware.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2B7A3858002 for ; Thu, 15 Apr 2021 05:30:01 +0000 (GMT) DMARC-Filter: OpenDMARC Filter v1.3.2 sourceware.org B2B7A3858002 Authentication-Results: sourceware.org; dmarc=none (p=none dis=none) header.from=1wt.eu Authentication-Results: sourceware.org; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=w@1wt.eu Received: (from willy@localhost) by pcw.home.local (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) id 13F5Tc78002350; Thu, 15 Apr 2021 07:29:38 +0200 Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2021 07:29:38 +0200 From: Willy Tarreau To: Borislav Petkov Cc: Len Brown , Andy Lutomirski , Florian Weimer , "Bae, Chang Seok" , Dave Hansen , X86 ML , LKML , linux-abi@vger.kernel.org, "libc-alpha@sourceware.org" , Rich Felker , Kyle Huey , Keno Fischer Subject: Re: Candidate Linux ABI for Intel AMX and hypothetical new related features Message-ID: <20210415052938.GA2325@1wt.eu> References: <87lf9nk2ku.fsf@oldenburg.str.redhat.com> <20210413034346.GA22861@1wt.eu> <20210414095804.GB10709@zn.tnic> <20210415044258.GA6318@zn.tnic> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20210415044258.GA6318@zn.tnic> User-Agent: Mutt/1.10.1 (2018-07-13) X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.4 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00, JMQ_SPF_NEUTRAL, KAM_DMARC_STATUS, SPF_HELO_PASS, SPF_PASS autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on server2.sourceware.org X-BeenThere: libc-alpha@sourceware.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Libc-alpha mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2021 05:30:03 -0000 On Thu, Apr 15, 2021 at 06:43:43AM +0200, Borislav Petkov wrote: > On Wed, Apr 14, 2021 at 05:57:22PM -0400, Len Brown wrote: > > I'm pretty sure that the "it isn't my use case of interest, so it > > doesn't matter" line of reasoning has long been established as -EINVAL > > ;-) > > I have only a very faint idea what you're trying to say here. Please > explain properly and more verbosely what exactly has been established > where? What Len is saying is that not being interested in a feature is not an argument for rejecting its adoption, which I'm perfectly fine with. But conversely not being interested in a feature is also an argument for insisting that its adoption doesn't harm other use cases (generally speaking, not this specific case here). Willy