From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from forward1-smtp.messagingengine.com (forward1-smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.223]) by sourceware.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 77A12383A82C for ; Wed, 16 Jun 2021 13:01:31 +0000 (GMT) DMARC-Filter: OpenDMARC Filter v1.4.1 sourceware.org 77A12383A82C Authentication-Results: sourceware.org; dmarc=none (p=none dis=none) header.from=alyssa.is Authentication-Results: sourceware.org; spf=fail smtp.mailfrom=eve.qyliss.net Received: from compute2.internal (compute2.nyi.internal [10.202.2.42]) by mailforward.nyi.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5221194027E; Wed, 16 Jun 2021 09:01:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mailfrontend2 ([10.202.2.163]) by compute2.internal (MEProxy); Wed, 16 Jun 2021 09:01:28 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=cc:content-type:date:from:in-reply-to :message-id:mime-version:references:subject:to:x-me-proxy :x-me-proxy:x-me-sender:x-me-sender:x-sasl-enc; s=fm3; bh=N6QadQ 6fqe0/cFAAVKe/gsz91dGKmNkNvg99ypZvp4U=; b=m6sRRlaef4XNTBFCc9BKdo 8oguWVdxl076RwgvnvTltGXRJ8UAOVW6fAqXFTHVyUi1R+pNN7tnrjWOnEkLLDNa xBWa8doQlBy0XonUVaiQOwchgPBcqywdoct54/uuD1+CjMu3Ne+/m0KLBE6M7qqp 2ahXx2/FJDHbv7RZBYWQoMz9pix/Wkv490NV++LQSm+4xhQU0lvd68yTDHTC05RO YHyiCHZUhjr5p08C00EEru/2kDsOscaLEIC2ensPOSkspAwfmMhobVDwu4gcwpYd V4AQlzNxq4b0qzGYk2U+Fr/FVN+ljn0r/OW+UFWNVXRU16n2qs13WtG5DrJNpPfQ == X-ME-Sender: X-ME-Received: X-ME-Proxy-Cause: gggruggvucftvghtrhhoucdtuddrgeduledrfedvledgiedtucetufdoteggodetrfdotf fvucfrrhhofhhilhgvmecuhfgrshhtofgrihhlpdfqfgfvpdfurfetoffkrfgpnffqhgen uceurghilhhouhhtmecufedttdenucesvcftvggtihhpihgvnhhtshculddquddttddmne cujfgurhepfffhvffukfhfgggtuggjsehgtddtredttddvnecuhfhrohhmpeetlhihshhs rgcutfhoshhsuceohhhisegrlhihshhsrgdrihhsqeenucggtffrrghtthgvrhhnpeefud elhfeugfetieefkeeuffdtgfegffdtvdffffekkeehkedvtedthefhuedvgeenucffohhm rghinhepghhnuhdrohhrghdpuggvvhgvlhhophgvrhgtvghrthhifhhitggrthgvrdhorh hgnecuvehluhhsthgvrhfuihiivgeptdenucfrrghrrghmpehmrghilhhfrhhomhepqhih lhhishhssegvvhgvrdhqhihlihhsshdrnhgvth X-ME-Proxy: Received: by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA; Wed, 16 Jun 2021 09:01:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: by eve.qyliss.net (Postfix, from userid 1000) id D66C8118; Wed, 16 Jun 2021 13:01:25 +0000 (UTC) Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2021 13:01:25 +0000 From: Alyssa Ross To: Carlos O'Donell Cc: libc-alpha , Jakub Jelinek , "Joseph S. Myers" , Maxim Kuvyrkov Subject: Re: Seeking input from developers: glibc copyright assignment policy. Message-ID: <20210616130125.p4g66deslr7aqykb@eve.qyliss.net> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="pql4ehsj3f3wf77h" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.4 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00, DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS, KAM_SHORT, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW, SPF_HELO_PASS, SPF_SOFTFAIL, TXREP autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on server2.sourceware.org X-BeenThere: libc-alpha@sourceware.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Libc-alpha mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2021 13:01:33 -0000 --pql4ehsj3f3wf77h Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline On Mon, Jun 14, 2021 at 02:52:03PM -0400, Carlos O'Donell via Libc-alpha wrote: > Community, > > glibc was created as part of the GNU Project but has grown to operate as > an autonomous project. As part of the GNU Toolchain the glibc stewards > support the gcc project policy changes presented here: > https://gcc.gnu.org/pipermail/gcc/2021-June/236182.html > > The glibc stewards are seeking input from developers to decide if the project > should relax the requirement to assign copyright for all changes to the > Free Software Foundation as follows: > > Contributors who have an FSF Copyright Assignment wouldn't need to > change anything. Contributors who wish to utilize the Developer Certificate > of Origin[1] would add a Signed-off-by message to their commit messages. > > The changes to accept patches with or without FSF copyright assignment > would be effective on August 2nd, and would apply to all open branches. > > The glibc stewards, like the GCC SC, continue to affirm the principles of > Free Software, and that will never change. > > glibc will continue to be developed, distributed, and licensed under the > GNU Lesser General Public License v2.1 or any later version as > published by the Free Software Foundation. > > Input on this issue is accepted until July 1st 2021. I've recently contributed a couple of patches to glibc, and the copyright assignment was definitely a barrier. I have no employer or university affiliation, so copyright wasn't an issue, and I also don't mind assigning copyright to the FSF, because regardless of everything else that's going on, I don't believe they're going to abuse my copyright. But even though I should be the simplest case, it still really got in the way of my patch, because it took 14 days after I requested the form for me to receive it, and then another 7 days after I returned it for it to be confirmed. That's a long time for both the reviewer and the contributor to keep a small patch in their head! So I'm in favour of allowing DCO. I'd definitely have chosen it over a copyright assignment had it been available. I don't particularly foresee any negative consequences that could come of it, especially since the FSF would probably continue to hold the vast majority of the copyright for the foreseeable future. And I definitely think it would help get more contributions, because I know how close I was to just giving up. > Signed, > Ryan Arnold > Paul Eggert > Jakub Jelinek > Maxim Kuvyrkov > Joseph Myers > Carlos O'Donell > > [1] https://developercertificate.org/ > --pql4ehsj3f3wf77h Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIzBAABCAAdFiEEH9wgcxqlHM/ARR3h+dvtSFmyccAFAmDJ9iMACgkQ+dvtSFmy ccCULg//YhrwKwrZfbIhcK1UUufWM8HGB32ZRtR/5LUpgnAstbQMbpDJYCBbKLs9 /RC+4myh+MJ+OEBfbZat0Ozf4lufqYpLrLypDX1mHGELOJiqmqfA7PHoW0Ao+Bod lBgflIdCW0hUEBX6uSLZWJQqtyDo6YRfiVrpaB8Pe10wIFYCzMk2YCvlpZOMszLa i4VDFeq/9Q5fKjBlMvKMJ//l7L45a7fWglQ3RcIUu7qJotJvIC0byvpz39qP9MQa eD3UpzYFQC72t0o/rk0aW0CCMDnGjxLI1mu0PYC3jCPc24mHJSmnLZvaHih2ji4s D79u0Z+Yvwk77it+U43ZIbimJYf18cCXotwA/ujvBe7a1nbd6zfM7ujLLcpIR+s9 YBdxejnQDmpaaazqP/nRRU3IzqS/1XTpsOr01k2pAwdNRi4mCJE9t2D5RGMdwe8F /80hcevhqXNIljlZMWgJgeFd4ZkPXGnIvK31oHoxEFNOsXwg2spv5YEOUABfoe7a diyDYp0lrxXpbu/lIw3SwdjJg46qKxafWvTnV4EHi2/ZX4nA3t7+mkdwTpnOvqCe MPrk4l0X6NmNKWA/M5tBYFQ275/R2sG4CK3SIkJvCkYyDtpOfdxV4TqPYOzkesM2 kqFfOkvwZbzjoSecKvs7ybyCwozY4Se7WUKomtTENAcJANUa1nE= =eTzp -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --pql4ehsj3f3wf77h--