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From: Fangrui Song <maskray@google.com>
To: Siddhesh Poyarekar <siddhesh@gotplt.org>
Cc: "H.J. Lu" <hjl.tools@gmail.com>,
	Florian Weimer <fweimer@redhat.com>,
	GNU C Library <libc-alpha@sourceware.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] New option --enable-pie-programs
Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2021 15:40:27 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20211122234027.hgw4e6rjkqp3rqom@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAMe9rOrBNYGpBq3Y7HSyYbmTvecTkwVG1LmbLNYwKdKDDfnnvQ@mail.gmail.com>

On 2021-11-18, H.J. Lu via Libc-alpha wrote:
>On Thu, Nov 18, 2021 at 10:09 AM Siddhesh Poyarekar <siddhesh@gotplt.org> wrote:
>>
>> On 11/18/21 23:28, H.J. Lu wrote:
>> >> How do you see --disable-default-pie behaving with a compiler that
>> >> produces PIE by default?  That is, in case where
>> >> libc_cv_cc_default_pie=yes?  Should it add -fno-pie or leave it as is?
>> >>
>> >
>> > It should add -fno-pie by default when building programs.
>> >
>>
>> In that case I'm inclined towards --enable-default-pie=yes being the new
>> default since AFAIK at least Ubuntu will have to start adding
>> --enable-default-pie to its flags to maintain its current state with its
>> default-pie toolchain.  With Fedora too I think we'd prefer to build PIE
>> by default and I suspect other distros would be OK with that too.
>>
>> Those that don't could add --disable-default-pie to continue maintaining
>> status quo.  This is a step forward security-wise IMO.
>>
>
>Sounds reasonable to me.

As a bonus, --enable-default-pie matches the GCC configure option name:)

As of the auto mode which adds neither -fno-pic nor -fpie, I think it is
unnecessary. --enable-default-pie + --disable-default-pie are sufficient.

---

I think --enable-default-pie is the majority in the Linux world, so
perhaps someone may want to make it the default in the upstream GCC.

After one or two llvm-project releases, I'll adjust my Clang patch
https://reviews.llvm.org/D113372 to default to PIE.

  reply	other threads:[~2021-11-22 23:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-11-16 13:52 Siddhesh Poyarekar
2021-11-16 13:58 ` Florian Weimer
2021-11-16 15:17   ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2021-11-17  8:39     ` Florian Weimer
2021-11-17  8:50       ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2021-11-17  9:10         ` Florian Weimer
2021-11-17 10:04           ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2021-11-18  9:24             ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2021-11-18 12:42               ` H.J. Lu
2021-11-18 12:49                 ` Adhemerval Zanella
2021-11-18 13:26                   ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2021-11-18 13:41                     ` H.J. Lu
2021-11-18 16:36                       ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2021-11-18 16:44                         ` H.J. Lu
2021-11-18 16:49                           ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2021-11-18 16:56                             ` H.J. Lu
2021-11-18 17:54                               ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2021-11-18 17:58                                 ` H.J. Lu
2021-11-18 18:09                                   ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2021-11-18 18:18                                     ` H.J. Lu
2021-11-22 23:40                                       ` Fangrui Song [this message]
2021-11-24  1:04                                         ` Fāng-ruì Sòng
2021-11-24  1:27                                           ` Siddhesh Poyarekar

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