From: Fangrui Song <maskray@google.com>
To: "H.J. Lu" <hjl.tools@gmail.com>
Cc: Szabolcs Nagy <szabolcs.nagy@arm.com>,
GNU C Library <libc-alpha@sourceware.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3] elf: Remove ELF_RTYPE_CLASS_EXTERN_PROTECTED_DATA
Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2022 13:00:05 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20220607200005.7bz5bln6ogadenlh@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAMe9rOqR6SeNWjFzqpLF7tbh0xfbD14-M1RZLxz_XBcyca0MwA@mail.gmail.com>
On 2022-06-07, H.J. Lu wrote:
>On Tue, Jun 7, 2022 at 11:21 AM Fangrui Song <maskray@google.com> wrote:
>>
>> On 2022-06-07, H.J. Lu wrote:
>> >On Tue, Jun 7, 2022 at 6:25 AM Szabolcs Nagy via Libc-alpha
>> ><libc-alpha@sourceware.org> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> The 06/01/2022 10:56, Fangrui Song wrote:
>> >> > If an executable has copy relocations for extern protected data, that
>> >> > can only work if the library containing the definition is built with
>> >> > assumptions (a) the compiler emits GOT-generating relocations (b) the
>> >> > linker produces R_*_GLOB_DAT instead of R_*_RELATIVE. Otherwise the
>> >> > library uses its own definition directly and the executable accesses a
>> >> > stale copy. Note: the GOT relocations defeat the purpose of protected
>> >> > visibility as an optimization, but allow rtld to make the executable and
>> >> > library use the same copy when copy relocations are present, but it
>> >> > turns out this never worked perfectly.
>> >> >
>> >> > ELF_RTYPE_CLASS_EXTERN_PROTECTED_DATA has strange semantics when both
>> >> > a.so and b.so define protected var and the executable copy relocates
>> >> > var: b.so accesses its own copy even with GLOB_DAT. The behavior change
>> >> > is from commit 62da1e3b00b51383ffa7efc89d8addda0502e107 (x86) and then
>> >> > copied to nios2 (ae5eae7cfc9c4a8297ff82ec6b794faca1976ecc) and arc
>> >> > (0e7d930c4c11de896fe807f67fa1eb756c9c1e05).
>> >> >
>> >> > Without ELF_RTYPE_CLASS_EXTERN_PROTECTED_DATA, b.so accesses the copy
>> >> > relocated data like a.so.
>> >> >
>> >> > ELF_RTYPE_CLASS_EXTERN_PROTECTED_DATA has another effect in the absence
>> >> > of copy relocations: when a protected data symbol is defined in multiple
>> >> > objects, the code tries to bind the relocation locally. Without
>> >> > ELF_RTYPE_CLASS_EXTERN_PROTECTED_DATA, STV_PROTECTED is handled in the
>> >> > same way as STV_DEFAULT: if ld produces GLOB_DAT (some ports of GNU ld),
>> >> > the relocation will bind to the first definition; otherwise (e.g.
>> >> > ld.lld) ld does the binding locally and ld.so doesn't help.
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >> i think we should not change the interposition semantics.
>> >> we should go back to the old behaviour where only copy
>> >> relocs were broken (and there was an expensive workaround
>> >> to deal with protected symbol interposition).
>> >>
>> >> i think you want to revert the elf/dl-lookup.c changes of
>> >>
>> >> commit 62da1e3b00b51383ffa7efc89d8addda0502e107
>> >> Author: H.J. Lu <hjl.tools@gmail.com>
>> >> CommitDate: 2015-03-31 05:16:57 -0700
>> >>
>> >> Add ELF_RTYPE_CLASS_EXTERN_PROTECTED_DATA to x86
>> >>
>> >
>> >I am OK to remove support of copy relocation against protected
>> >symbols since it doesn't work properly.
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> >My only question is if
>> >ld.so should issue a warning or an error when seeing a copy
>> >relocation against a protected symbol. Copy relocation against
>> >protected symbol defeats the purpose of protected symbol.
>>
>> The check already exists (_dl_check_protected_symbol) but currently
>> relies on GNU_PROPERTY_1_NEEDED_INDIRECT_EXTERN_ACCESS (only implemented
>> for x86, and adoption is low on x86).
>>
>> For ELF_RTYPE_CLASS_COPY, I think the GNU_PROPERTY_1_NEEDED_INDIRECT_EXTERN_ACCESS
>> check can be removed.
>
>Will removal of GNU_PROPERTY_1_NEEDED_INDIRECT_EXTERN_ACCESS
>check cause many run-time errors?
>> (
>> Since GCC 5, x86-64 -fpie has HAVE_LD_PIE_COPYRELOC.
>> When neither -m[no]direct-extern-access is specified, HAVE_LD_PIE_COPYRELOC takes effect.
>> The executable does not have GNU_PROPERTY_1_NEEDED_INDIRECT_EXTERN_ACCESS
>> but the incompatibility exists.
>> It just kinda works because GCC and GNU ld cooperate to produce a GLOB_DAT in the DSO.
>> )
>>
>> For ELF_RTYPE_CLASS_PLT, the pointer equality does not matter much in
>> practice:
>>
>> * protected visibility adoption is very low due to various problems.
>> * Taking a function address in the executable and expecting it to match the address in a DSO is rare.
>> * Many users use ICF and by and large don't care about function addresses to some extent.
>>
>> I think having the warning under GNU_PROPERTY_1_NEEDED_INDIRECT_EXTERN_ACCESS is fine.
>> (
>> * x86-32 -fno-pic uses R_386_PC32 as a jump instruction, which is
>> indistinguishable from an address-taken operation
>> https://maskray.me/blog/2021-01-09-copy-relocations-canonical-plt-entries-and-protected#branch-instructions-on-x86
>> )
>
>An error with GNU_PROPERTY_1_NEEDED_INDIRECT_EXTERN_ACCESS
>and a warning without?
This plan sounds good, when we create a separate patch enhancing the
diagnostics.
x86-32 may need a exception (i.e. no warning) for ELF_RTYPE_CLASS_PLT to handle R_386_PC32.
>> >> > It's extremely unlikely anyone relies on the
>> >> > ELF_RTYPE_CLASS_EXTERN_PROTECTED_DATA behavior, so let's remove it: this
>> >> > removes a check in the symbol lookup code.
>> >> >
>> >> > --
>> >> > Changes from v1:
>> >> > * Reword commit message as suggested by Szabolcs Nagy
>> >> >
>> >> > Changes from v2:
>> >> > * Explain interposition behavior
>> >> > ---
>> >> > elf/dl-lookup.c | 90 -------------------------------------
>> >> > sysdeps/arc/dl-sysdep.h | 21 ---------
>> >> > sysdeps/generic/ldsodefs.h | 12 +----
>> >> > sysdeps/i386/dl-machine.h | 3 +-
>> >> > sysdeps/nios2/dl-sysdep.h | 21 ---------
>> >> > sysdeps/x86/dl-lookupcfg.h | 4 --
>> >> > sysdeps/x86_64/dl-machine.h | 8 +---
>> >> > 7 files changed, 4 insertions(+), 155 deletions(-)
>> >> > delete mode 100644 sysdeps/arc/dl-sysdep.h
>> >> > delete mode 100644 sysdeps/nios2/dl-sysdep.h
>> >> >
>> >> > diff --git a/elf/dl-lookup.c b/elf/dl-lookup.c
>> >> > index a42f6d5390..41d108e0b8 100644
>> >> > --- a/elf/dl-lookup.c
>> >> > +++ b/elf/dl-lookup.c
>> >> ...
>> >> > @@ -854,43 +801,6 @@ _dl_lookup_symbol_x (const char *undef_name, struct link_map *undef_map,
>> >> > return 0;
>> >> > }
>> >> >
>> >> > - int protected = (*ref
>> >> > - && ELFW(ST_VISIBILITY) ((*ref)->st_other) == STV_PROTECTED);
>> >> > - if (__glibc_unlikely (protected != 0))
>> >> > - {
>> >> > - /* It is very tricky. We need to figure out what value to
>> >> > - return for the protected symbol. */
>> >> > - if (type_class == ELF_RTYPE_CLASS_PLT)
>> >> > - {
>> >> > - if (current_value.s != NULL && current_value.m != undef_map)
>> >> > - {
>> >> > - current_value.s = *ref;
>> >> > - current_value.m = undef_map;
>> >> > - }
>> >> > - }
>> >> > - else
>> >> > - {
>> >> > - struct sym_val protected_value = { NULL, NULL };
>> >> > -
>> >> > - for (scope = symbol_scope; *scope != NULL; i = 0, ++scope)
>> >> > - if (do_lookup_x (undef_name, new_hash, &old_hash, *ref,
>> >> > - &protected_value, *scope, i, version, flags,
>> >> > - skip_map,
>> >> > - (ELF_RTYPE_CLASS_EXTERN_PROTECTED_DATA
>> >> > - && ELFW(ST_TYPE) ((*ref)->st_info) == STT_OBJECT
>> >> > - && type_class == ELF_RTYPE_CLASS_EXTERN_PROTECTED_DATA)
>> >> > - ? ELF_RTYPE_CLASS_EXTERN_PROTECTED_DATA
>> >> > - : ELF_RTYPE_CLASS_PLT, NULL) != 0)
>> >> > - break;
>> >> > -
>> >> > - if (protected_value.s != NULL && protected_value.m != undef_map)
>> >> > - {
>> >> > - current_value.s = *ref;
>> >> > - current_value.m = undef_map;
>> >> > - }
>> >> > - }
>> >> > - }
>> >> > -
>> >>
>> >> i think we should keep this part without the
>> >> ELF_RTYPE_CLASS_EXTERN_PROTECTED_DATA bit.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >--
>> >H.J.
>
>
>
>--
>H.J.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2022-06-07 20:00 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2022-06-01 4:50 [PATCH v2] " Fangrui Song
2022-06-01 7:26 ` Szabolcs Nagy
2022-06-01 7:34 ` Fangrui Song
2022-06-01 9:53 ` Szabolcs Nagy
2022-06-01 10:56 ` Florian Weimer
2022-06-02 5:21 ` Fangrui Song
2022-06-01 17:56 ` [PATCH v3] " Fangrui Song
2022-06-07 13:24 ` Szabolcs Nagy
2022-06-07 17:49 ` Fangrui Song
2022-06-08 9:15 ` Szabolcs Nagy
2022-06-08 17:16 ` Fangrui Song
2022-06-09 8:12 ` Szabolcs Nagy
2022-06-07 17:49 ` H.J. Lu
2022-06-07 18:21 ` Fangrui Song
2022-06-07 19:21 ` H.J. Lu
2022-06-07 20:00 ` Fangrui Song [this message]
2022-06-07 21:02 ` H.J. Lu
2022-06-07 23:57 ` Fangrui Song
2022-06-08 1:51 ` H.J. Lu
2022-06-08 3:42 ` Fangrui Song
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