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From: "Frank Ch. Eigler" <fche@redhat.com>
To: Siddhesh Poyarekar <siddhesh@gotplt.org>
Cc: Overseers mailing list <overseers@sourceware.org>,
	"Frank Ch. Eigler" <fche@elastic.org>,
	gdb@sourceware.org, Mark Wielaard <mark@klomp.org>,
	libc-alpha@sourceware.org, binutils@sourceware.org,
	gcc@gcc.gnu.org
Subject: Re: The GNU Toolchain Infrastructure Project
Date: Tue, 4 Oct 2022 10:41:14 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20221004144114.GB15858@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <dd229687-9e22-d779-dbed-d2121e379388@gotplt.org>

Hi -

> > > I don't see a risk to freedom.  The GNU toolchain is quite underfunded
> > > compared to llvm/clang and IMO it's a major risk to maintain status quo on
> > > that front.  The GTI opens new avenues for funding aspects of the GNU
> > > toolchain without affecting its core governance.
> > 
> > What aspects of the gnu toolchain are open to being funded via the
> > LF/GTI proposal, -other than- the vast majority of the funds being
> > redirected to its own managed services infrastructure?
> 
> This current proposal is limited to infrastructure, which has ever-growing
> needs.

I'm afraid I don't understand then what the point of comparing to LLVM
with respect to competitiveness or freedom was.  AIUI, infrastructure
is an enabler, not really a competitive differentiator.


> Do you think the current proposal is not an upgrade to what we
> currently have?

I don't know.  I am not under the impression that infrastructure is
holding back development on any of these projects.  Further, I suspect
that if the communities were given a choice to direct the sponsors'
generous donations toward new development type work, they may well
prefer that.  Is that possibility on offer?


- FChE


  reply	other threads:[~2022-10-04 14:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-09-27 20:08 Carlos O'Donell
2022-09-28 22:38 ` Carlos O'Donell
2022-10-02 20:47   ` Mark Wielaard
2022-10-04 13:46     ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2022-10-04 14:01       ` Frank Ch. Eigler
2022-10-04 14:13         ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2022-10-04 14:19           ` Frank Ch. Eigler
2022-10-04 14:33             ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2022-10-04 14:41               ` Frank Ch. Eigler [this message]
2022-10-04 14:55                 ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2022-10-04 15:07                   ` Frank Ch. Eigler
2022-10-06 21:42             ` Alexandre Oliva
2022-10-04 17:10       ` Christopher Faylor
2022-10-04 17:17         ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2022-10-04 18:42           ` Christopher Faylor
2022-10-04 19:05           ` Mark Wielaard
2022-10-04 19:10             ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2022-10-06 20:02               ` Mark Wielaard
2022-10-06 20:12                 ` Christopher Faylor
2022-10-06 21:37                   ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2022-10-07 13:39                     ` Mark Wielaard
2022-10-06 21:07                 ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2022-10-06 21:36                   ` Frank Ch. Eigler
2022-10-06 21:44                     ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2022-10-06 22:57                       ` Frank Ch. Eigler
2022-10-11 13:02                         ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2022-10-07  8:57                   ` Mark Wielaard
2022-10-11 13:24                     ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2022-10-11 14:23                       ` Frank Ch. Eigler
2022-10-11 15:58                     ` Alexandre Oliva
2022-10-11 17:14                       ` David Edelsohn
2022-10-11 18:12                         ` Frank Ch. Eigler
2022-10-12  8:00                         ` Mark Wielaard
2022-10-12 13:18                           ` Florian Weimer
2022-10-12 21:23                             ` Mark Wielaard
2022-10-12 15:15                           ` Jonathan Corbet
2022-10-12 10:55                         ` Alexandre Oliva

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