From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from cheddar.halon.org.uk (cheddar.halon.org.uk [93.93.131.118]) by sourceware.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A26993857803 for ; Sat, 12 Nov 2022 04:56:16 +0000 (GMT) DMARC-Filter: OpenDMARC Filter v1.4.1 sourceware.org A26993857803 Authentication-Results: sourceware.org; dmarc=none (p=none dis=none) header.from=wookware.org Authentication-Results: sourceware.org; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=wookware.org DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=wookware.org; s=cheddar; h=In-Reply-To:Content-Type:MIME-Version:References :Message-ID:Subject:Cc:To:From:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject: Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-ID:Content-Description:X-Debbugs-Cc; bh=rjt7A2ZAq8sJoIeXcVRZ1IO5UWetPXLnip85OcbFfoQ=; b=AxNGe56QJy5X5JxJ9WZPs6B1nh atgpsua5F8Kas9nggO2kW6LXrK29aDOjvvC7iwLrGz06ZFHHZnkcDtVjA5rMfyAI0X8jCKPu9OPck pZZXExVa1BQvhzHmGgS2D1mdEcJsN0HswbfguULtkcRJhQz3y26wOuZ0yCnLl0wBOsswaWbg5uGLo MzI5v6c1lcXqDZq1+5PK87QGGQhDCq3AyEv6T4kBszYCFj3t0Tz6NAUS5ofhQK90mRJgggH4Gqwpk 27eUEOJntcsPQEBlO96rTeLQuwhhXXrn6cKNB9DSdfC7l5ec7i6Vx764M0oDFn4T/iUiYG7RvxU/s qAvIvAMg==; Received: from wookey by cheddar.halon.org.uk with local (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1otiYw-0005yc-Rq; Sat, 12 Nov 2022 04:56:14 +0000 Date: Sat, 12 Nov 2022 04:56:14 +0000 From: Wookey To: Sam James Cc: Florian Weimer , Carlos O'Donell via Libc-alpha , Autoconf Development , c-std-porting@lists.linux.dev, Zack Weinberg , David Seifert , Gentoo Toolchain , Arsen =?utf-8?Q?Arsenovi=C4=87?= , Paul Eggert , Frederic Berat , Arnd Bergmann , Helmut Grohne Subject: Re: On time64 and Large File Support Message-ID: <20221112045614.GP19515@mail.wookware.org> References: <87wn81q254.fsf@oldenburg.str.redhat.com> <20221112042052.GL27919@mail.wookware.org> <6CB9AA26-B9E2-46F3-99FA-A0C038963495@gentoo.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="Q0rSlbzrZN6k9QnT" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <6CB9AA26-B9E2-46F3-99FA-A0C038963495@gentoo.org> Organization: Wookware User-Agent: Mutt/1.10.1 (2018-07-13) X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.8 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,DKIM_VALID_EF,SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS,TXREP autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.6 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.6 (2021-04-09) on server2.sourceware.org List-Id: --Q0rSlbzrZN6k9QnT Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 2022-11-12 04:28 +0000, Sam James wrote: >=20 >=20 > > On 12 Nov 2022, at 04:20, Wookey wrote: > >=20 > > Distros need to co-ordinate on this. If there are going to be new > > triplets for the 'LFS and 64_bit timet' ABI(s) then we should agree on > > them and use them. If distros are happy to migrate to these ABIs > > within the existing arm-linux-gnueabihf and i386-linux-gnu (or > > i686-linux-gnu) then we should do that. > >=20 > > If half the distros migrate within the existing triplet and the rest use > > a new one, that sounds like a recipie for much confusion. > >=20 >=20 > 100%. And also on sharing patches and known problems > and experience with the migration. All of it! OK. It seems that the time is right to have this conversation. So we should= agree on a place to do it. We have used the linaro cross-distro list in the past as it is intended for this sort of cross-cutting discussions. I can't think of a better place? https://lists.linaro.org/mailman3/lists/cross-distro.lists.linaro.org/ Some of the right people are probably already there, but we should encourage others with relevant expertise to join. Wookey --=20 Principal hats: Debian, Wookware, ARM http://wookware.org/ --Q0rSlbzrZN6k9QnT Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIzBAABCgAdFiEER4nvI8Pe/wVWh5yq+4YyUahvnkcFAmNvJ2kACgkQ+4YyUahv nkfSRw//TDz1YdzDsFaxDvfmeXBPPgazoOLJpK/RrIcAFdc3wckiyy7TWrHFaYcP H8bD5Emb3NqR6AbewYFh1gnCDF3BbTR+gUdmmRsTWNMhgjuUiNTSMt1r/McUP7UY iSRRoVu8HkuCuKGMVCx259UrVST8uDT0+13B6QWebNP0qM73Cjd1+eQmGbFY8wdV Wh6XJxUUvywYiDLmeK4Q9o20fVSk/Go5xid+gOG5dvfQ2scy/FPgk50/1FtF6yQm 63dhSko3Qd1mB5Ff4oS8CGegi5NFhg3O0qS4gFaOXobFjxfcn8sWJXD5V/n+HxTS avwLoERSGz8fitU+e/uIbFgXf20e0d/0rSRJnYHrPiOjcunLMUwmA/23l0Z+chYf T4MDnrDLDxnUaU9H02+dgo522Mwp5cdj2Bvrx7sX/COb3X6vbY6Xf8iAXl+WsvQa Pyha450EEVqEwbiXbaeiM3Fob9r9WP4hQtq8tRtrJz6L5GtA8OMNwS+G8NmkRpOR zuqXqhWnvnUuTtp8ptVVL1DOPHIIMqacyDwwJlMlK2kS786AJKbe+snEnfNiahHr +pvythys9jdrjlDphOItjkIWnO7XtwNHbkbBUtK5MplKnhWjZxnXSyqYX9N5yxV8 b7CeASP+z6r1ZDazqxBgWe76PQBQ6S1aBykKejCyHvQbpTA0x+M= =8s5T -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Q0rSlbzrZN6k9QnT--