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From: Adhemerval Zanella <adhemerval.zanella@linaro.org>
To: Florian Weimer <fweimer@redhat.com>
Cc: libc-alpha@sourceware.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 3/3] csu: Implement and use _dl_early_allocate during static startup
Date: Fri, 6 May 2022 10:04:32 -0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <2aa1ffb1-1c8b-c8b8-2a40-1386581f5391@linaro.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87mtfvj7z8.fsf@oldenburg.str.redhat.com>



On 06/05/2022 07:00, Florian Weimer wrote:
> * Adhemerval Zanella:
> 
>> On 05/05/2022 15:03, Florian Weimer wrote:
>>> * Adhemerval Zanella:
>>>
>>>> I still think there will be way simpler to just use mmap here, it will allow
>>>> to use a generic version without the need to fiddle with a Linux specific 
>>>> (it will be required just a wrapper to MMAP_CALL_INTERNAL, instead of an
>>>> implementation that need to know both sbrk and mmap internals).
>>>
>>> We need to wrap the difference in error checking as well.
>>>
>>>> I think you even clean up all the dl-brk.c and similar files required to
>>>> make brk/sbrk work on the loader with an allocator that only uses mmap.
>>>
>>> At the cost of additional VMAs, sure.  We won't be able to reuse the
>>> unused tail of the allocation easily because we do not know the page
>>> size yet.  __minimal_malloc does not yet work at this point.  We also
>>> lose some ASLR.  I'm not convinced it's worth it.
>>
>> It is another code that does something similar to __minimal_malloc to
>> a specific usage, so now we have another allocation scheme that is used
>> solely for static initialization.  And it does something different than
>> __minimal_malloc, so has different semantic.
>>
>> I am not really against it, but initialization code is already 
>> quite complex with a lot of different paths for dynamic/static case,
>> so I think it would be good to have single loader/static allocation 
>> code.  
> 
> As I said, we don't have the page size yet at this point, and
> __minimal_malloc needs to know that.  And there are likely other
> obstacles to consolidation.

But for !SHARED we do call _dl_aux_init before ARCH_SETUP_TLS, so
we can access GRLO(dl_pagesize).  

> How can we move this forward?

I am still not very found of bleeding misc/sbrk.c details to Linux
dl-early_allocate.c, but this is not a blocker for the patch.

  reply	other threads:[~2022-05-06 13:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-05-05 15:06 [PATCH v4 1/3] ia64: Always define IA64_USE_NEW_STUB as a flag macro Florian Weimer
2022-05-05 15:07 ` [PATCH v4 2/3] Linux: Implement a useful version of _startup_fatal Florian Weimer
2022-05-05 15:28   ` Andreas Schwab
2022-05-05 15:43     ` Florian Weimer
2022-05-05 17:29   ` Adhemerval Zanella
2022-05-05 15:08 ` [PATCH v4 3/3] csu: Implement and use _dl_early_allocate during static startup Florian Weimer
2022-05-05 17:48   ` Adhemerval Zanella
2022-05-05 18:03     ` Florian Weimer
2022-05-05 18:25       ` Adhemerval Zanella
2022-05-06 10:00         ` Florian Weimer
2022-05-06 13:04           ` Adhemerval Zanella [this message]
2022-05-06 13:19   ` Adhemerval Zanella
2022-05-09 16:10     ` Florian Weimer
2022-05-09 16:52       ` Adhemerval Zanella
2022-05-09 17:08         ` Florian Weimer
2022-05-09 17:37           ` Adhemerval Zanella
2022-05-05 17:28 ` [PATCH v4 1/3] ia64: Always define IA64_USE_NEW_STUB as a flag macro Adhemerval Zanella

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