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From: Adhemerval Zanella Netto <adhemerval.zanella@linaro.org>
To: Florian Weimer <fweimer@redhat.com>, Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>
Cc: YunQiang Su <yunqiang.su@cipunited.com>,
	Xi Ruoyao <libc-alpha@sourceware.org>,
	aurelien@aurel32.net, Jiaxun Yang <jiaxun.yang@flygoat.com>,
	"Maciej W. Rozycki" <macro@orcam.me.uk>,
	syq@debian.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3] Define in_int32_t_range to check if the 64 bit time_t syscall should be used
Date: Tue, 8 Nov 2022 08:55:49 -0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <2f0868e0-e242-a1b0-a698-dc5afea4ad30@linaro.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87sfitisjq.fsf@oldenburg.str.redhat.com>



On 08/11/22 08:39, Florian Weimer wrote:
> * Arnd Bergmann:
> 
>> On Tue, Nov 8, 2022, at 12:17, Florian Weimer wrote:
>>> * Arnd Bergmann:
>>>> On Tue, Nov 8, 2022, at 05:49, YunQiang Su wrote:
>>>>> Currently glibc uses in_time_t_range to detects time_t overflow,
>>>>> and if it occurs fallbacks to 64 bit syscall version.
>>>>>
>>>>> The function name is confusing because internally time_t might be
>>>>> either 32 bits or 64 bits (depending on __TIMESIZE).
>>>>>
>>>>> This patch refactors the in_time_t_range by replacing it with
>>>>> in_int32_t_range for the case to check if the 64 bit time_t syscall
>>>>> should be used.
>>>>>
>>>>> The in_time_t range is used to detect overflow of the
>>>>> syscall return value.
>>>>
>>>> It looks like the fallback logic has another flaw, I don't
>>>> see how this works on kernels with COMPAT_32BIT_TIME disabled,
>>>> as these only have the time64 syscalls available.
>>>
>>> Isn't that an invalid kernel configuration?
>>
>> No, this is what we will use anyway after 2038 (possibly
>> earlier), so the option is useful to ensure that all userspace
>> has been converted away from the time32 interfaces.
> 
> What happened to not breaking userspace?
> 
> Those with 32-bit applications will want to run their legacy stuff in a
> time-shifted environment, so these system calls must remain supported
> outside specialized applications.
> 
> Thanks,
> Florian

I agree and the time64 support was added based on this assumption.  I
understand that this simplifies the code and kernel attack surface,
but it a userspace breakage anyhow.

  reply	other threads:[~2022-11-08 11:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-11-04  1:39 [PATCH] Use in_int32_t_range to check need 64bit syscall YunQiang Su
2022-11-08  4:49 ` [PATCH v3] Define in_int32_t_range to check if the 64 bit time_t syscall should be used YunQiang Su
2022-11-08 10:39   ` Arnd Bergmann
2022-11-08 11:17     ` Florian Weimer
2022-11-08 11:33       ` Arnd Bergmann
2022-11-08 11:39         ` Florian Weimer
2022-11-08 11:55           ` Adhemerval Zanella Netto [this message]
2022-11-08 12:28           ` Arnd Bergmann
2022-11-08 12:51             ` Adhemerval Zanella Netto
2022-11-08 13:27               ` Arnd Bergmann
2022-11-08 13:49                 ` Adhemerval Zanella Netto
2022-11-08 14:07                   ` Arnd Bergmann
2022-11-08 14:27                     ` Adhemerval Zanella Netto
2022-11-08 19:47                       ` Adhemerval Zanella Netto
2022-11-08 23:29                         ` Rich Felker
2022-11-17 17:35   ` Adhemerval Zanella Netto

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