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From: "Alejandro Colomar (man-pages)" <alx.manpages@gmail.com>
To: Florian Weimer <fweimer@redhat.com>,
	"Michael Kerrisk (man-pages) via Libc-alpha"
	<libc-alpha@sourceware.org>, Jakub Wilk <jwilk@jwilk.net>
Cc: "Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)" <mtk.manpages@gmail.com>,
	linux-man@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 00/35] SYNOPSIS: Use syscall(SYS_...); and fix '#include's
Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2021 11:09:24 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <365dc717-eb20-4549-9b6a-09eeadcfc89d@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87y2doni1m.fsf@oldenburg.str.redhat.com>

Hi Florian,

On 4/12/21 8:17 AM, Florian Weimer wrote:
> * Michael Kerrisk via Libc-alpha:
> 
>> So, I think I'm okay with the syscall() changes in the SYNOPSIS.
>> It might just take me a moment to get used to them. However, I do
>> wonder if it is worth retaining a comment in the SYSNOPSIS,
>> something like:
>>
>>     SYNOPSIS
>>         #include <asm/prctl.h>        /* Definition of ARCH_* constants */
>>         #include <sys/syscall.h>      /* Definition of SYS_* constants */
>>         #include <unistd.h>
>>
>>         int syscall(SYS_arch_prctl, int code, unsigned long addr);
>>         int syscall(SYS_arch_prctl, int code, unsigned long *addr);
>>
>>         Note: glibc provides no wrapper for arch_prctl(), necessitating
>>         the use of syscall(2).
>>
>> Without something like this, the reader may be puzzled at the use of
>> syscall().
>>
>> What do you think?
> 
> Would it be possible to use real C syntax?
> 
>    int code;
>    unsigned long addr;
>    int result;
>    result = syscall (SYS_arch_prctl, code, addr);
>    result = syscall (SYS_arch_prctl, code, &addr);

I think that adds too many lines, and doesn't add much value.  Yes, it 
provides pure C syntax, which might be a bit easier to understand, but 
is it worth it?

I followed the syntax already used by some manual pages such as the 
ioctl_*(2) pages (see ioctl_fat(2) for example), although I must admit 
it was a bit rare the first time I saw it; but I think it's a good 
compromise between being short and providing information.

I think the EXAMPLES section can better clarify how to use the function 
if there're any doubts.

> 
> Or perhaps omit the result variable:
> 
>    int code;
>    unsigned long addr;
>    syscall (SYS_arch_prctl, code, addr);

That wouldn't provide the reader with the info about which type should 
he expect as return; the most important part being the signedness of the 
type.

On 4/12/21 8:39 AM, Jakub Wilk wrote:
 >>
 >
 > Or, more succinctly, put the types in comments:
 >
 >    syscall(SYS_arch_prctl, /* int */ code, /* unsigned long */ addr);

I'm not sure.  I see the point in doing this, but I think I prefer my 
version, because it has less noise.  But I might be a bit biased :)


Thanks,

Alex

-- 
Alejandro Colomar
Linux man-pages comaintainer; https://www.kernel.org/doc/man-pages/
http://www.alejandro-colomar.es/

  parent reply	other threads:[~2021-04-12  9:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 114+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-04-03 19:39 [PATCH v4 " Alejandro Colomar
2021-04-03 19:39 ` [PATCH v4 01/35] system_data_types.7: Add 'struct sockaddr' Alejandro Colomar
2021-04-03 19:39 ` [PATCH v4 02/35] sockaddr.3: New link to system_data_types(7) Alejandro Colomar
2021-04-03 19:39 ` [PATCH v4 03/35] system_data_types.7: Add 'socklen_t' Alejandro Colomar
2021-04-03 19:39 ` [PATCH v4 04/35] socklen_t.3: New link to system_data_types(7) Alejandro Colomar
2021-04-03 19:39 ` [PATCH v4 05/35] access.2: Use syscall(SYS_...); for system calls without a wrapper Alejandro Colomar
2021-04-03 19:39 ` [PATCH v4 06/35] add_key.2: Remove unused include Alejandro Colomar
2021-04-03 19:39 ` [PATCH v4 07/35] alloc_hugepages.2: Use syscall(SYS_...); for system calls without a wrapper Alejandro Colomar
2021-04-03 19:40 ` [PATCH v4 08/35] arch_prctl.2: " Alejandro Colomar
2021-04-03 19:40 ` [PATCH v4 09/35] arch_prctl.2: SYNOPSIS: Remove unused includes Alejandro Colomar
2021-04-03 19:40 ` [PATCH v4 10/35] capget.2: Use syscall(SYS_...); for system calls without a wrapper Alejandro Colomar
2021-04-03 19:40 ` [PATCH v4 11/35] clone.2: " Alejandro Colomar
2021-04-03 19:40 ` [PATCH v4 12/35] delete_module.2: Add missing include Alejandro Colomar
2021-04-03 19:40 ` [PATCH v4 13/35] dup.2: SYNOPSIS: Use consistent comments through pages Alejandro Colomar
2021-04-03 19:40 ` [PATCH v4 14/35] execveat.2: Use syscall(SYS_...); for system calls without a wrapper Alejandro Colomar
2021-04-03 19:40 ` [PATCH v4 15/35] exit_group.2: Use 'noreturn' in prototypes Alejandro Colomar
2021-04-03 19:40 ` [PATCH v4 16/35] exit_group.2: Use syscall(SYS_...); for system calls without a wrapper Alejandro Colomar
2021-04-03 19:40 ` [PATCH v4 17/35] fanotify_init.2: Add comment: why more than one include is needed Alejandro Colomar
2021-04-03 19:40 ` [PATCH v4 18/35] fcntl.2: Remove unused include Alejandro Colomar
2021-04-03 19:40 ` [PATCH v4 19/35] futex.2: Use syscall(SYS_...); for system calls without a wrapper Alejandro Colomar
2021-04-03 19:40 ` [PATCH v4 20/35] futimesat.2: ffix Alejandro Colomar
2021-04-03 19:40 ` [PATCH v4 21/35] getdents.2: Use syscall(SYS_...); for system calls without a wrapper Alejandro Colomar
2021-04-03 19:40 ` [PATCH v4 22/35] getpriority.2: Remove unused include Alejandro Colomar
2021-04-03 19:40 ` [PATCH v4 23/35] getrlimit.2, getrusage.2: " Alejandro Colomar
2021-04-03 19:40 ` [PATCH v4 24/35] getunwind.2: Use syscall(SYS_...); for system calls without a wrapper Alejandro Colomar
2021-04-03 19:40 ` [PATCH v4 25/35] get_robust_list.2: " Alejandro Colomar
2021-04-03 19:40 ` [PATCH v4 26/35] delete_module.2: " Alejandro Colomar
2021-04-03 19:40 ` [PATCH v4 27/35] init_module.2: " Alejandro Colomar
2021-04-03 19:40 ` [PATCH v4 28/35] io_cancel.2: " Alejandro Colomar
2021-04-03 19:40 ` [PATCH v4 29/35] ioctl_fat.2: Make clear why is each header exactly needed Alejandro Colomar
2021-04-03 19:40 ` [PATCH v4 30/35] ioctl_fat.2: ffix Alejandro Colomar
2021-04-03 19:40 ` [PATCH v4 31/35] ioctl_ficlonerange.2: Make clear why is each header exactly needed Alejandro Colomar
2021-04-03 19:40 ` [PATCH v4 32/35] ioctl_fideduperange.2: Make clear why exactly is each header needed Alejandro Colomar
2021-04-03 19:40 ` [PATCH v4 33/35] ioctl_fslabel.2: ffix Alejandro Colomar
2021-04-03 19:40 ` [PATCH v4 34/35] ioctl_fslabel.2: Make clear why exactly is each header needed Alejandro Colomar
2021-04-03 19:40 ` [PATCH v4 35/35] ioctl_getfsmap.2: " Alejandro Colomar
2021-04-04 11:58 ` [PATCH v5 00/35] SYNOPSIS: Use syscall(SYS_...); and fix '#include's Alejandro Colomar
2021-04-05 11:49   ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2021-04-11 19:23     ` Alejandro Colomar (man-pages)
2021-04-11 19:30       ` Alejandro Colomar (man-pages)
2021-04-12  6:17     ` Florian Weimer
2021-04-12  6:39       ` Jakub Wilk
2021-04-12  9:09       ` Alejandro Colomar (man-pages) [this message]
2021-04-21  5:41         ` Florian Weimer
2021-04-24 15:46           ` Alejandro Colomar (man-pages)
2021-04-04 11:58 ` [PATCH v5 01/35] system_data_types.7: Add 'struct sockaddr' Alejandro Colomar
2021-04-05 10:40   ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2021-04-04 11:58 ` [PATCH v5 02/35] sockaddr.3: New link to system_data_types(7) Alejandro Colomar
2021-04-04 11:58 ` [PATCH v5 03/35] system_data_types.7: Add 'socklen_t' Alejandro Colomar
2021-04-05 10:40   ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2021-04-04 11:58 ` [PATCH v5 04/35] socklen_t.3: New link to system_data_types(7) Alejandro Colomar
2021-04-05 10:41   ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2021-04-04 11:58 ` [PATCH v5 05/35] access.2: Use syscall(SYS_...); for system calls without a wrapper Alejandro Colomar
2021-04-05 11:17   ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2021-04-04 11:58 ` [PATCH v5 06/35] add_key.2: Remove unused include Alejandro Colomar
2021-04-05 10:51   ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2021-04-05 10:55   ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2021-04-04 11:58 ` [PATCH v5 07/35] alloc_hugepages.2: Use syscall(SYS_...); for system calls without a wrapper Alejandro Colomar
2021-04-05 11:22   ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2021-04-04 11:58 ` [PATCH v5 08/35] arch_prctl.2: " Alejandro Colomar
2021-04-05 11:25   ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2021-04-04 11:58 ` [PATCH v5 09/35] arch_prctl.2: SYNOPSIS: Remove unused includes Alejandro Colomar
2021-04-05 11:26   ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2021-04-04 11:58 ` [PATCH v5 10/35] capget.2: Use syscall(SYS_...); for system calls without a wrapper Alejandro Colomar
2021-04-05 11:29   ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2021-04-04 11:58 ` [PATCH v5 11/35] clone.2: " Alejandro Colomar
2021-04-05 11:31   ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2021-04-04 11:58 ` [PATCH v5 12/35] delete_module.2: Add missing include Alejandro Colomar
2021-04-05 10:48   ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2021-04-04 11:58 ` [PATCH v5 13/35] dup.2: SYNOPSIS: Use consistent comments through pages Alejandro Colomar
2021-04-05 11:32   ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2021-04-04 11:58 ` [PATCH v5 14/35] execveat.2: Use syscall(SYS_...); for system calls without a wrapper Alejandro Colomar
2021-04-05 11:33   ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2021-04-04 11:58 ` [PATCH v5 15/35] exit_group.2: Use 'noreturn' in prototypes Alejandro Colomar
2021-04-05 10:43   ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2021-04-04 11:58 ` [PATCH v5 16/35] exit_group.2: Use syscall(SYS_...); for system calls without a wrapper Alejandro Colomar
2021-04-05 11:36   ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2021-04-04 11:58 ` [PATCH v5 17/35] fanotify_init.2: Add comment: why more than one include is needed Alejandro Colomar
2021-04-05 10:50   ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2021-04-04 11:58 ` [PATCH v5 18/35] fcntl.2: Remove unused include Alejandro Colomar
2021-04-05 10:44   ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2021-04-04 11:58 ` [PATCH v5 19/35] futex.2: Use syscall(SYS_...); for system calls without a wrapper Alejandro Colomar
2021-04-04 11:58 ` [PATCH v5 20/35] futimesat.2: ffix Alejandro Colomar
2021-04-05 10:42   ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2021-04-04 11:58 ` [PATCH v5 21/35] getdents.2: Use syscall(SYS_...); for system calls without a wrapper Alejandro Colomar
2021-04-05 11:37   ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2021-04-04 11:58 ` [PATCH v5 22/35] getpriority.2: Remove unused include Alejandro Colomar
2021-04-05 10:49   ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2021-04-04 11:58 ` [PATCH v5 23/35] getrlimit.2, getrusage.2: " Alejandro Colomar
2021-04-05 10:48   ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2021-04-04 11:58 ` [PATCH v5 24/35] getunwind.2: Use syscall(SYS_...); for system calls without a wrapper Alejandro Colomar
2021-04-05 11:37   ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2021-04-04 11:58 ` [PATCH v5 25/35] get_robust_list.2: " Alejandro Colomar
2021-04-05 11:39   ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2021-04-04 11:58 ` [PATCH v5 26/35] delete_module.2: " Alejandro Colomar
2021-04-05 11:41   ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2021-04-04 11:58 ` [PATCH v5 27/35] init_module.2: " Alejandro Colomar
2021-04-05 11:41   ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2021-04-04 11:58 ` [PATCH v5 28/35] io_cancel.2: " Alejandro Colomar
2021-04-05 11:43   ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2021-04-04 11:58 ` [PATCH v5 29/35] ioctl_fat.2: Make clear why is each header exactly needed Alejandro Colomar
2021-04-05 11:02   ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2021-04-04 11:58 ` [PATCH v5 30/35] ioctl_fat.2: ffix Alejandro Colomar
2021-04-05 11:03   ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2021-04-04 11:58 ` [PATCH v5 31/35] ioctl_ficlonerange.2: Make clear why is each header exactly needed Alejandro Colomar
2021-04-05 11:13   ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2021-04-04 11:58 ` [PATCH v5 32/35] ioctl_fideduperange.2: Make clear why exactly is each header needed Alejandro Colomar
2021-04-05 11:16   ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2021-04-04 11:58 ` [PATCH v5 33/35] ioctl_fslabel.2: ffix Alejandro Colomar
2021-04-05 11:10   ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2021-04-04 11:58 ` [PATCH v5 34/35] ioctl_fslabel.2: Make clear why exactly is each header needed Alejandro Colomar
2021-04-05 11:04   ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2021-04-04 11:58 ` [PATCH v5 35/35] ioctl_getfsmap.2: " Alejandro Colomar
2021-04-05 11:10   ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)

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