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From: Adhemerval Zanella <adhemerval.zanella@linaro.org>
To: Paul Eggert <eggert@cs.ucla.edu>, Andreas Schwab <schwab@linux-m68k.org>
Cc: libc-alpha@sourceware.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/9] posix: Allow glob to match dangling symlinks [BZ #866]
Date: Sun, 10 Sep 2017 08:19:00 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <403decc7-e039-9be1-fb44-25d611540156@linaro.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <450d2eab-f21a-f90c-6210-ea638787e339@cs.ucla.edu>



On 09/09/2017 19:01, Paul Eggert wrote:
> Adhemerval Zanella wrote:
>> since make also packs
>> its own glob copy from gnulib, it is matter to fix on make if and when
>> it syncs with gnulib.
>
> No, GNU Make uses glibc glob if it passes the compatibility tests in
> 'configure', which it does. So previously-built instances of GNU make
> will likely crash if run with a glibc containing the proposed symlink
> changes. Even if you rebuild GNU Make from scratch it will still
> crash, because glibc glob will pass GNU Make's tests even with the patch.
>
> We could fix this by incrementing _GNU_GLOB_INTERFACE_VERSION to 2
> (causing GNU Make's configure-time test to fail), but this is a
> serious step that requires changing the libc.so major version number,
> creating backwards-compatibility functions for the old behavior, etc.
> I doubt whether the symlink glitch with 'glob' is worth all this effort.
>
> How about the following idea instead: establish two new flags
> GLOB_FOLLOW and GLOB_NOFOLLOW, where the caller specifies whether
> symlinks should be followed. The default is system-dependent. For
> glibc the default is GLOB_FOLLOW (we can even make GLOB_FOLLOW zero).
> For FreeBSD the default would be GLOB_NOFOLLOW, assuming they like the
> idea of supporting these flags. This maintains backward-compatibility
> for both kinds of platforms. For application code preferring
> GLOB_NOFOLLOW semantics if available, a simple:
>
> #include <glob.h>
> #ifndef GLOB_NOFOLLOW
> # define GLOB_NOFOLLOW 0
> #endif
>
> will do, as long as all calls go glob specify 'GLOB_NOFOLLOW'. We can
> implement this idea first in Gnulib and then propose it for glibc.
>
> Anyway, I'll submit a bug report to GNU Make, since it should not be
> assuming this implementation detail of glibc, regardless of what we
> decide about the above matter. However, it will be at best many years
> before we can assume this bug is fixed in the wild.
I would prefer to avoid adding a new flag, but for this specific issue I
do not see a better
solution (as you have said I also agree bumping interface version does
not worth the
trouble).  What really bothers me is the motivation to actually support
it is to maintain
compatibility with a undefined use of a not well documented interface
(which imho is
clearly a bug in 'make' usage). This will be another adhoc gnu
extension, which
most likely won't be used anywhere besides on make itself (and the
system-dependent
semantic will also lead to more confusion).

Another option is to add a compat glob symbol with previous semantic
(without
actually bumping _GNU_GLOB_INTERFACE_VERSION). It still won't help new
'make'
builds against newer glibc (not without fixing make anyway), so I am not
sure if
is feasible solution.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2017-09-10  8:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 62+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-09-05 20:25 [PATCH 0/9] posix: glob fixes and refactor Adhemerval Zanella
2017-09-05 20:25 ` [PATCH 7/9] posix: Consolidate glob implementation Adhemerval Zanella
2017-09-12  7:35   ` Andreas Schwab
2017-09-12 14:08     ` Adhemerval Zanella
2017-09-12 14:17       ` Andreas Schwab
2017-09-12 14:29     ` Joseph Myers
2017-09-12 14:39       ` Andreas Schwab
2017-09-12 14:50         ` Joseph Myers
2017-09-12 12:56   ` Andreas Schwab
2017-09-12 14:22     ` Adhemerval Zanella
2017-09-12 14:34       ` Andreas Schwab
2017-09-13 12:26         ` Adhemerval Zanella
2017-09-05 20:25 ` [PATCH 2/9] posix: accept inode 0 is a valid inode number (BZ #19971) Adhemerval Zanella
2017-09-05 20:25 ` [PATCH 4/9] Sync scratch_buffer with gnulib Adhemerval Zanella
2017-09-18  6:09   ` Florian Weimer
2017-09-18 11:43     ` Adhemerval Zanella
2017-09-18 11:57       ` Florian Weimer
2017-09-18 12:25         ` Adhemerval Zanella
2017-09-05 20:25 ` [PATCH 1/9] posix: Sync glob with gnulib [BZ #1062] Adhemerval Zanella
2017-09-06  2:01   ` Paul Eggert
2017-09-06 12:52     ` Adhemerval Zanella
2017-09-12 14:20   ` Andreas Schwab
2017-09-12 17:06     ` Adhemerval Zanella
2017-09-05 20:25 ` [PATCH 3/9] posix: Allow glob to match dangling symlinks [BZ #866] Adhemerval Zanella
2017-09-06  1:27   ` Paul Eggert
2017-09-06 12:57     ` Adhemerval Zanella
2017-09-09  9:50   ` Andreas Schwab
2017-09-09 11:56     ` Adhemerval Zanella
2017-09-09 17:02       ` Paul Eggert
2017-09-09 17:11         ` Zack Weinberg
2017-09-09 17:26           ` Andreas Schwab
2017-09-09 17:33             ` Zack Weinberg
2017-09-10  8:19         ` Adhemerval Zanella [this message]
2017-09-10 17:13           ` Paul Eggert
2017-09-11 14:34           ` Joseph Myers
2017-09-11 14:38             ` Zack Weinberg
2017-09-11 16:53               ` Paul Eggert
2017-09-11 17:25                 ` Zack Weinberg
2017-09-11 17:38                   ` Paul Eggert
2017-09-11 17:56                     ` Zack Weinberg
2017-09-11 18:03                       ` Paul Eggert
2017-09-11 20:09                         ` Adhemerval Zanella
2017-09-13  9:14                           ` Paul Eggert
2017-09-13 12:22                             ` Adhemerval Zanella
2017-09-14 10:05                               ` Szabolcs Nagy
2017-09-14 13:43                                 ` Adhemerval Zanella
2017-09-15 20:18                             ` Florian Weimer
2017-09-15 20:27                               ` Adhemerval Zanella
2017-09-17  7:16                               ` Paul Eggert
2017-09-17  7:48                                 ` Florian Weimer
2017-09-17 14:18                                   ` Adhemerval Zanella
2017-09-05 20:25 ` [PATCH 6/9] posix: fix glob bugs with long login names Adhemerval Zanella
2017-09-05 20:25 ` [PATCH 5/9] posix: Fix getpwnam_r usage (BZ #1062) Adhemerval Zanella
2017-09-05 20:25 ` [PATCH 8/9] posix: Use enum for __glob_pattern_type result Adhemerval Zanella
2017-09-06  1:30   ` Paul Eggert
2017-09-06  4:18   ` Paul Eggert
2017-09-06 13:04     ` Adhemerval Zanella
2017-09-06 16:18       ` Paul Eggert
2017-09-06 16:54         ` Adhemerval Zanella
2017-09-05 20:25 ` [PATCH 9/9] posix: Fix glob with GLOB_NOCHECK returning modified patterns (BZ#10246) Adhemerval Zanella
2017-09-07 22:14   ` Paul Eggert
2017-09-08  9:16     ` Adhemerval Zanella

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