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From: Adhemerval Zanella Netto <adhemerval.zanella@linaro.org>
To: Florian Weimer <fweimer@redhat.com>
Cc: libc-alpha@sourceware.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 11/11] syslog: Use a printf buffer directly to construct the entire packet
Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2024 10:35:58 -0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <42c1cdcb-e96b-47ce-a483-cc07b0ed60b1@linaro.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87cysxc23a.fsf@oldenburg.str.redhat.com>



On 15/02/24 10:02, Florian Weimer wrote:
> * Adhemerval Zanella Netto:
> 
>> On 09/02/24 12:26, Florian Weimer wrote:
>>> This defers buffer management largely to the asprintf implementation.
>>> It is quite close to the original implementation around
>>> open_memstream, except that an on-stack buffer is used for shorter
>>> messages, and that strftime no longer writes directly into the
>>> buffer.
>>>
>>> The new version no longer uses the (slow) %n format specifier.
>>> It also fixes an issue in the localtime_r failure path, where
>>> the message is prefixed with ": " due to an incorrect placement
>>> of the %n specifier.
>>
>> What I am not sure if this is really the direction we want for
>> internal FILE usage.  I had the impression that the printf buffer
>> internal API was mainly meant to improve the old FILE implementation
>> and its historical drawnbacks and limitations.  For internal usage we
>> would continue to use standard FILE API, should we move to always use
>> printf buffers instead?
> 
> There are currently no internal uses (that I can see) of _IO_strfile for
> writing purposes.  The psiginfo function uses __fmemopen, but that seems
> excessive.  The syslog implementation was the only user of
> open_memstream.  The reason for the open_memstream removal was
> allocation removal, which makes sense for a logging function.
> 
> We must have manual constructs that use some printf function variant to
> write to temporary buffers elsewhere.  One example is
> stdio-common/psignal.c.  I can't find others outside sunrpc/ right now,
> but they likely exist.  Switching those to fmemopen/open_memstream would
> introduce the allocation issue as well, and dynamically sized printf
> buffers could be a replacement.

For unbounded messages I tend to agree that fmemopen/open_memstream might
be not the best option.  I would like to avoid having a another internal
API for such cases, but it seems that printf buffer is a slight better
option indeed.

> 
> I know that musl uses its _IO_strfile equivalent in such cases, but our
> libio implementation is much more heavyweight, and it's hard to review
> if new direct low-level uses of the libio internals are actually
> correct.
> 
>> I am asking because it is a lot of code and refactoring for a specific
>> code that I would like to avoid change due the recent issues.  Most of 
>> complication is the static buffer optimization, so maybe we should just
>> remove it?
> 
> Pretty much all buffer management code is deleted.  We now have even
> fewer code of that than in the previous open_memstream-based function.
> 
>> Also, since the motivation for this change is just to remove the %n
>> requirement, maybe we can just not enable it on syslog instead (since
>> we now that the internal calls should not act as a gadget)?  
> 
> That doesn't remove the complicated buffer management.

Right, the resulting code does seems simplified.

  reply	other threads:[~2024-02-16 13:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-02-09 15:24 [PATCH 00/11] Build getdomainname, gethostname, syslog with fortification Florian Weimer
2024-02-09 15:24 ` [PATCH 01/11] misc: Build getdomainname " Florian Weimer
2024-02-12 17:14   ` Adhemerval Zanella Netto
2024-02-12 17:30     ` Andreas Schwab
2024-02-12 19:29       ` Florian Weimer
2024-02-13  9:12         ` Andreas Schwab
2024-02-13  9:23           ` Florian Weimer
2024-02-13  9:32             ` Andreas Schwab
2024-02-09 15:24 ` [PATCH 02/11] misc: Build gethostname " Florian Weimer
2024-02-12 17:25   ` Adhemerval Zanella Netto
2024-02-09 15:25 ` [PATCH 03/11] libio: Add fortify wrapper for internal __snprintf Florian Weimer
2024-02-12 17:34   ` Adhemerval Zanella Netto
2024-02-13 12:13     ` Florian Weimer
2024-02-13 13:16       ` Adhemerval Zanella Netto
2024-02-09 15:25 ` [PATCH 04/11] syslog: Update misc/tst-syslog to check reported %n value Florian Weimer
2024-02-13 11:59   ` Adhemerval Zanella Netto
2024-02-15 13:23     ` Florian Weimer
2024-02-09 15:25 ` [PATCH 05/11] syslog: Build with fortification Florian Weimer
2024-02-13 12:26   ` Adhemerval Zanella Netto
2024-02-09 15:25 ` [PATCH 06/11] stdio: Rename __printf_buffer to __vfprintf_buffer Florian Weimer
2024-02-16 13:40   ` Adhemerval Zanella Netto
2024-02-09 15:25 ` [PATCH 07/11] libio: Extract __printf_buffer_asprintf_init from asprintf implementation Florian Weimer
2024-02-16 14:04   ` Adhemerval Zanella Netto
2024-02-09 15:25 ` [PATCH 08/11] stdio-common: Introduce the __printf_buffer function Florian Weimer
2024-02-16 14:12   ` Adhemerval Zanella Netto
2024-02-09 15:25 ` [PATCH 09/11] stdio-common: Allow skipping initial bytes in __printf_buffer for %n Florian Weimer
2024-02-16 14:13   ` Adhemerval Zanella Netto
2024-02-09 15:25 ` [PATCH 10/11] stdio-common: Support large offsets with %lln Florian Weimer
2024-02-16 14:20   ` Adhemerval Zanella Netto
2024-02-09 15:26 ` [PATCH 11/11] syslog: Use a printf buffer directly to construct the entire packet Florian Weimer
2024-02-14 15:16   ` Adhemerval Zanella Netto
2024-02-15 13:02     ` Florian Weimer
2024-02-16 13:35       ` Adhemerval Zanella Netto [this message]
2024-02-16 15:58   ` Adhemerval Zanella Netto

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